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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. # W0 ?$ {3 C2 u- a0 i# ^7 F) M
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ' i( W9 p2 f* B+ M

0 T% A# L( W" Z- ?# S( T9 ]( V, z$ TNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.: ?" r: g9 F0 p3 v' s3 A

) q/ b2 c* t- A5 n# cTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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  _/ d. |5 u1 Q! J6 [+ STD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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  R+ z6 W/ y! i+ A2 N% vMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. " r8 h6 ]( ]2 B

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,. u* Y7 d; _  X4 a! T0 x! r
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
& e- A* |. ^# ^. B0 |( p 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
8 m& h6 G1 {! d( G1 @跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
, l8 u" n5 r2 P! e+ K/ gWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its5 ~  H. _( K+ J$ F1 V% y% \4 q
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2 J. _. R7 I0 y& q; P2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
5 G; U  X8 _- a. m9 j' W- W* k( bformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 X& a& B$ p( X. V# F4 g; v
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
9 Y! Z0 {: B- {the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
( h  c, e2 m0 L2 F. \. O* Omay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined% r: \: V6 f% i- [. l) z
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year/ G1 m' i3 ]6 S6 D' m7 \
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
8 C" y; r/ r$ }( ]0 a: e9 kyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
, Y7 ]6 K" _7 A$ t# q7 b8 V6 s8 rhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
4 O) u  f. f. g+ V2 u7 U30,000 new households will form in the province during
$ L: M+ a  g2 r0 ?/ `4 M+ V6 B& B2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.4 \6 a" |8 f: G
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s7 i* m. L, a$ F6 m
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new( |- u9 J) u$ g) F6 b
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals, J3 u; b2 D4 H$ d: T& P( o
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging& B- }3 u/ @- p. t# ^
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories+ E% S7 F% d) n2 V  {5 E2 ]5 S
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a% L; n* H, u( p" x* q. Z
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive, a5 u; S# ~3 t! L! F" k/ d
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
$ Q, E+ K  I4 a1 k9 Y# ftwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
4 x1 e/ E( ^$ ]9 `unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
2 P0 }1 }* f: u+ e1 ~/ A& ounsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 V4 n+ R; ]6 @" ]2 K  f6 t6 U
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
/ S% d- u0 @& M! lresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s- b2 }4 y+ b, A7 D* ~" J0 l
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
. ^$ q$ b+ q! Q3 d5 ?relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale" s+ T3 x$ [6 q" Z
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even- H$ r) b3 m( W/ _( Y2 o
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners- u( j3 c+ o9 A" V% k
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
2 q* @0 h2 I$ `: `% UThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove7 n9 e+ x: g* w4 [' C4 @
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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: }# d5 k# D0 N$ [5 P  I) y! pAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%$ l7 I9 o! s. H- w
leg down over 2009.+ N4 y/ w$ ~, _( [; ^% n/ m0 G

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, x. J0 L5 W6 {6 P
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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