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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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" A% ?4 u- O- w( rTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " z* ?$ t& C! z6 @- G

" Z) U7 U- ?) m6 r4 j( KNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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2 }$ K. w. {* c  u* ?TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000." O) V: R4 G. _

& Z/ {+ {" E. L5 O9 v  _"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ! B( l* a+ [( D; X3 x' q  s

* t; L, y6 E' a2 [* c2 C4 ^8 Y% NTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / `  k+ U: p, ]

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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6 p5 v9 |5 ?& }; w1 {1 M[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。" F. b/ D5 |6 z1 z6 w
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。# A. r; O: [& y; ^

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ) i* `  _4 t& y2 g+ A0 {0 W
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

( F8 ~* v- `4 @, [  m很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton* j) F6 M. e0 K' Z! m5 J3 ?, ?
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
4 u; u. p- Y( F! r2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
5 V9 L" z' @3 c! i+ yformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 z) g. l4 y9 f, M# a# C. |, p
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,- e6 a- R- V/ Q7 G  ^6 C" l
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 }! `$ e) z) t& n9 r( R6 |/ Gmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous2 q: i2 D' ?3 k. y
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed8 f# j7 y  q6 T7 d6 C$ v3 o
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined; d% \/ b, b" S
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
4 {, G1 m! C1 Yprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
* w% e/ o  p# q" a( L( Z30,000 new households will form in the province during5 G, K" T- T0 }3 L+ f
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year., b9 R2 y7 B  D% H0 n5 R6 [, K
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s2 @; J8 e5 \4 d9 y! s! g8 ]3 @" l
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals! H- y9 q7 z1 n2 |" H
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging% Z, i* e. s3 y# n
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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! `& A4 U! r* f; dexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of3 w) l: x& J3 ~, x1 Y! Q3 @: K- p, Q7 [
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
; P" Q# p, r! nsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive! b# t; }* v: _- |. v* r
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in6 G3 \: b' h! W7 S" U2 Q& j
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
) J' K( G+ l- i$ c3 Uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
4 K: N  N3 A0 A4 H$ z) Punsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest; _# `8 n# c6 y2 n( e; {  [# Y: k# s
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the7 Z1 V  Q7 P3 j. W4 k& h
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled$ _+ |7 Q& |) k: i( l' M
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
, b- T! F, P# g: C0 H9 mThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s% w, K( U  {7 x1 H. G
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
. w- a' s& B2 P/ GAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
/ D& d$ q2 M: {" Fhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced4 e+ @* W/ d# r2 P, R5 ]
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale+ n1 ^2 Z" w; O
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
$ {# K7 c- w4 U) ^6 Qthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners8 k1 b& x1 w( e* t0 E& t
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.2 r6 j* n4 `$ l9 |" @
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove: m  z/ R: X9 C, z. n
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
8 k% v' E2 ?7 n  L$ P. @- d- H7 ldeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,8 p4 ?* n  G) H2 w9 l  D
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,# L$ U& a/ v4 ]/ T  r3 J
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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) i( i4 E( g7 P5 g% B/ v, R[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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