孙杨到底为啥拒绝药检？

雨夜灯光

和药检人员发生冲突，说他们资质不合格？是不是有点心虚不敢让检啊？霍顿不和他合影还收到其他运动员崇拜
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http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2019/07/25/8518370.html

中国嫩炮

游泳的里面吃药的很多。对于霍顿和其他和他保持一样信念的人来说，吃药就是下三滥，哪怕吃一次也是下三滥。至于是主动服药还是误服，是否有处罚，对他来说是没区别的。哪怕是索普哈克特这俩老乡他也怼。我不说他这信念是对是错。从他的眼里，跟下三滥一起站台是丢不起那人的。
不过也有无所谓的。比如意大利那小伙子，人家啊就说了，我凭本事拿到世界第三，前两个是金镶玉还是下三滥跟我有P关系。大概是这意思。

natson

虽然孙大锤这家伙不是好人，但这件事情我认为他没有问题，很简单，飞行药检，你要是吃了药，跑了就是，澳大利亚那两个选手就这样，禁赛会禁赛但没人说你吃药。孙大锤这是已经被抽了血了才发现对方人有问题，如果他自己有问题何必挨抽，这是个基本逻辑问题

中国嫩炮

natson 发表于 2019-7-26 07:12
虽然孙大锤这家伙不是好人，但这件事情我认为他没有问题，很简单，飞行药检，你要是吃了药，跑了就是，澳大 ...

1 o! b$ C* N2 H( M他当时是懵逼的。他妈来了之后才反应过来。
: z4 w! s0 c: @; e! M' S就比如你嫖娼，光个屁股被堵屋里了，进来个便衣上来就查你身份证户口本。你大概率会实话实说，完全不记得嫖娼之前刚跟他们所长一起喝的酒。
孙杨应该和你的感觉差不多吧。

yumilili

will you let some body suspicious and totally unprofessional take your blood? especially when his whole life depends on it.
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If FINA decide what he did is ok and he get to be in the match, there is nothing wrong with it.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019 ... n-it-seems/11328364

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The blood that was initially collected (and subsequently destroyed) was not collected with proper authorisation and thus was not properly a "sample" … as a result, the sample collection session initiated by IDTM on September, 4, 2018, is invalid and void.
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) P( j2 x9 m! d7 k5 S8 ENo FINA DC rule violations can result therefrom.

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鲁仁毅

傻波伊挺多的。

程序正义，程序正义，程序正义。重要的事情说三遍。
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在中国，从血管里抽血这件事是需要有护士执业资格证的人员做的。就算是交警路边查酒驾，吹气检查也只是参考。要是定罪，必须去医院由护士抽血检测。

中国嫩炮

$ F4 v8 s9 O) |* d( y程序正义主体是行政机关。目的是限制公权力。反兴奋剂组织是个屁行政机关，有个屁程序正义。
9 e' [0 u" Q+ l- a" E& ~; c这就像你公司要求你不能跟同事搞对象一样，明显违反了你自由恋爱的权利，但是你就必须遵守，不然就滚蛋。
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鲁仁毅

傻波伊看看国际反兴奋剂组织自己是怎么要求的

# ]/ r  i$ }( Q6 x5.3.2 The Sample Collection Authority shall appoint and authorise Sample Collection Personnel to conduct or assist with Sample Collection Sessions who have been trained for their assigned responsibilities, who do not have a conflict of interest in the outcome of the Sample collection, and who are not Minors.
1 ]7 n* r, H+ c+ e* F: s8 N- V 5.3.3 Sample Collection Personnel shall have official documentation, provided by the Sample Collection Authority, evidencing their authority to collect a Sample from the Athlete, such as an authorisation letter from the Testing Authority. DCOs shall also carry complementary identification which includes their name and photograph (i.e., identification card from the Sample Collection Authority, driver’s licence, health card, passport or similar valid identification) and the expiry date of the identification.

那晚采血样的三个人只有一个持有反兴奋剂组织的介绍信。
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中国嫩炮

土鳖。反兴奋剂组织不是行政机构，不适用毒树之果这一原则。主体错误。
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yumilili

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTuesiai6f4

Mack Horton refuses to answer questions over Shayna Jack's positive doping test
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I just LOVE this video!!

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I was disappointed to learn late yesterday that a fellow Dolphins team member had recently returned a positive A sample," Horton said.
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"I applaud the decision to immediately withdraw the athlete in question from further competition until this matter is resolved.
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, Z/ G6 ~" b1 W* K/ f+ N9 \"My position remains firm — clean sport must be a priority for all athletes, all sports and all nations."
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你还要他说啥？他也没经过文革，屁股没坐过好几条板凳。

mich2015

natson 发表于 2019-7-26 07:12
# D& L) w7 M7 p5 D) Y% K虽然孙大锤这家伙不是好人，但这件事情我认为他没有问题，很简单，飞行药检，你要是吃了药，跑了就是，澳大 ...

有道理，心虚就干脆开始就不抽了。孙估计是怕有人有故意使坏，而且当时还是有个人拿相机对他摄像，这也是不容许的，好像这些人一开始就怀着某种目的似的。另外他砸药前，向教练（领导？），律师汇报过的，都觉得有问题，才发生了砸药的事

yumilili

中国嫩炮 发表于 2019-7-29 14:51
I was disappointed to learn late yesterday that a fellow Dolphins team member had recently returned  ...

* O+ @6 V# g; l' Jif you watched the video, he didn't say anything, only awkward smiling.
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* Z/ e8 T: q" q% P9 ~3 Jok so he said he is "disappointed " on Shayna Jack afterward, first of all, totally PR glossary, second of all , what else can he say? that he is in support of her? that the whole team knew ? He does not have much choice right?

0 P+ J# W  J) t* V% bmy point is, he is a sour loser, he could total refuse to be in the match if he does not believe the match is fair, instead, he lose the match and refused to stand on the podium alongside Sun Yang.  Not a real man.