why it's swine, why not pig?

兰颜知己

With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商，他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean pig.

billzhao

swine    n.
1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar
2 : a contemptible person
# [" ~4 N- Q7 O. P) a; X" _ swine fever  
1 : HOG CHOLERA
! ~1 P/ D  s+ i: Q. k2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa
© 2005 Merriam-Webster, Incorporated
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0 R6 w( \6 G5 q$ YThe reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.

兰颜知己

got u, tks a lot.

Xbfeng

Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.

yuanyuan

pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。
! H! v4 x; H; _$ Epig 是常用词, 指“猪”、“小猪”、“猪肉”, 如: roast pig 烤猪肉。
hog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。
swine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!
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（转自金山词霸）

rainbowfish

Great! Thank you !

金币

原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表
8 K+ l! x9 |  p: oWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商，他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean  ...

6 K; b) ]/ [! \4 L9 y顺带说一句啊，要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine，至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。

billzhao

估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧，大家都认识，但说话一般不那么说，否则被人说使用 big words.

billzhao

对牛弹琴  
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to play the lute to a cow ：  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience
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to cast pearls before swine
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caviar to the general
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to preach to deaf ears

to talk over sb's head
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The whistle jigs to a milestone.

With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.
5 g/ d( T- E8 j3 r9 g面对这个客商，他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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She read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.
6 R% A" T4 y( K0 p她为他们朗诵莎士比亚著作，但那等于对牛弹琴。

; F* ]! B/ [- CAn nod is as good as a wink to a Blind horse
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7 i3 e) Z2 e) P playing a harp before a Buffalo
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/ s0 a' p) F5 tplay the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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talk to a Brick wall
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  ^0 v2 p' `2 kTheir hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.
4 m% W2 w$ s. U* U/ S, ^3 K他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.
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9 u7 v6 _: e4 o/ h  Z% F[ 本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 10:49 编辑 ]

金币

原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表
; p. ~$ H5 @! V# s. H估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧，大家都认识，但说话一般不那么说，否则被人说使用 big words.

我找了个老外确认了一下，他们好像完全不知有这个说法。

billzhao

可能
可能这种说法太书面语了，也可能out of date了。
也有可能外国人不爱学习，学问高的不多。
( D" x% J. m; r2 H还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐，你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。
: a# t" v/ V2 b- s9 ?不管怎么说，既然字典上有了，就是有这种说法，而且是相当的人知道这种说法，否则就不会遍到字典上去了