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why it's swine, why not pig?

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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
发表于 2009-4-29 11:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-29 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
swine    n.6 g0 k+ Z" H) h& S# C! N; S5 J
1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar
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# b4 M2 Z" X6 l2 @- s( r# D swine fever  
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+ h- d, m3 \  p) G2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa- A; ]; ]7 e3 P) }/ N
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5 x, R" o8 Q& o& ^The reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.
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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
got u, tks a lot.
鲜花(77) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
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Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.
鲜花(5) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 21:41 | 显示全部楼层
pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。
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hog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。* O, c0 l& P* ~
swine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!3 b, }5 y0 I/ W

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鲜花(20) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
Great! Thank you !
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发表于 2009-4-30 09:51 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表   p! q" v5 W% y
With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean  ...
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! B. s+ }2 m. E' F6 a  h顺带说一句啊,要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine,至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
对牛弹琴  + A2 }# r. U) X- n& T
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to play the lute to a cow :  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience9 f* C) x3 v/ h. A

$ C" v% a3 H+ D5 e9 Dto cast pearls before swine
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2 R- X1 c. O& zcaviar to the general
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to preach to deaf ears
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to talk over sb's head 7 P6 C/ m' V1 G3 w; @3 C
     
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8 U/ |* j: K7 r) r7 [The whistle jigs to a milestone.7 K; z2 O4 T# @9 {* @2 X

; V) L  y* m; U9 S5 A% E# d+ @! R2 iWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.
1 C+ H. K, G) [; l面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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2 H2 p9 d$ w( cShe read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.9 x: ~) B0 j4 v
她为他们朗诵莎士比亚著作,但那等于对牛弹琴。
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( @  w' S# @- m5 L. rAn nod is as good as a wink to a Blind horse/ u6 B% V+ Y8 N# F
对牛弹琴. k/ }* ~; D2 P& m5 V& t# Q) o1 k

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playing a harp before a Buffalo% W: Y3 D# _, i" E) O7 k7 j( K
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play the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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talk to a Brick wall3 u& i# K. u$ l
对牛弹琴
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6 z% _0 q7 b" `  iTheir hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.
% o; I( b# W4 K4 q2 L  B3 @他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.
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" U7 [, y* |$ E  c[ 本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 10:49 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-30 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表 , [  c# w: @/ S
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.

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我找了个老外确认了一下,他们好像完全不知有这个说法。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 12:56 | 显示全部楼层
可能
9 ~3 X# H1 `2 A, z! u/ l可能这种说法太书面语了,也可能out of date了。
: \0 G& ]: T3 r3 N/ t2 J+ D也有可能外国人不爱学习,学问高的不多。
. X* ^# e; |0 h$ @+ s还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐,你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。0 Q, ~& R; L: f+ I% u
不管怎么说,既然字典上有了,就是有这种说法,而且是相当的人知道这种说法,否则就不会遍到字典上去了
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