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why it's swine, why not pig?

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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
发表于 2009-4-29 11:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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; |1 F3 m5 Y" h. J8 Rand from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean pig.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-29 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
swine    n.
5 y6 p7 {! J; T4 H( M1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar
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swine fever  
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$ \9 _0 m  D* p. ]8 q" _6 c; L& y2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa
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! Y! {5 ?1 Q  C) t2 l. n; p9 TThe reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.
鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
got u, tks a lot.
鲜花(77) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.
鲜花(5) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 21:41 | 显示全部楼层
pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。; T' h5 D+ n4 e3 {6 s) A" A  a7 j
pig 是常用词, 指“猪”、“小猪”、“猪肉”, 如: roast pig 烤猪肉。: o% [, |0 V" }; t8 B% l! [- r
hog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。
: g$ R# y- L% p9 o9 h8 T" r. z, ^0 G) nswine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!2 D6 q9 G, r) G; \  }% }8 u9 I

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鲜花(20) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
Great! Thank you !
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发表于 2009-4-30 09:51 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表
; [# n+ e  W3 J1 B5 }# f: AWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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4 d8 ]$ s% \; o# Z& P, m' qand from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean  ...

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顺带说一句啊,要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine,至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
对牛弹琴  
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to play the lute to a cow :  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience
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to cast pearls before swine
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to preach to deaf ears
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to talk over sb's head
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The whistle jigs to a milestone.
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.
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She read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.
2 N6 _0 [- L1 \0 J她为他们朗诵莎士比亚著作,但那等于对牛弹琴。
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4 G/ P: T6 [6 \- NAn nod is as good as a wink to a Blind horse1 s) F. r  y8 D
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play the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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对牛弹琴
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Their hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.5 A- L2 _1 }4 U
他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.
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+ j6 i7 C0 H; s( ^* B; m$ n[ 本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 10:49 编辑 ]
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表
, P5 ?) B; v( k' Y1 c估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
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1 y$ N+ n4 ^* @5 V* N我找了个老外确认了一下,他们好像完全不知有这个说法。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 12:56 | 显示全部楼层
可能: R$ r# x- Y; L: C! ]* M8 P4 b
可能这种说法太书面语了,也可能out of date了。
4 e5 }% i: m# Y; P也有可能外国人不爱学习,学问高的不多。$ ?7 ], \8 L" y
还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐,你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。3 d/ j' L/ _5 D( P8 `. b
不管怎么说,既然字典上有了,就是有这种说法,而且是相当的人知道这种说法,否则就不会遍到字典上去了
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