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why it's swine, why not pig?

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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
发表于 2009-4-29 11:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。' n, A2 c; l* s, k: Z
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean pig.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-29 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
swine    n.
  E& f/ x  w0 k3 u1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar ( b. ^( A# R1 r; C1 q. |0 ~' ^
2 : a contemptible person
, u8 E9 O( b* q7 k3 Y+ M swine fever  
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2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa
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7 J2 \# C; i6 x+ dThe reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.
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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
got u, tks a lot.
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发表于 2009-4-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.
鲜花(5) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 21:41 | 显示全部楼层
pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。6 J+ O2 r, p1 d5 E& T
pig 是常用词, 指“猪”、“小猪”、“猪肉”, 如: roast pig 烤猪肉。
( m- ?0 Z, a, K- }hog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。4 Q! k. @9 _7 i% }
swine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!
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! l  ?' H0 O5 ]& n. P(转自金山词霸)
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发表于 2009-4-30 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
Great! Thank you !
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发表于 2009-4-30 09:51 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表
& P& m0 n2 J* F0 }" D8 w5 b4 n, iWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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: c5 L5 n3 q3 ~, g" G顺带说一句啊,要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine,至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
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发表于 2009-4-30 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
对牛弹琴  * ?, ]7 ~3 B* y7 d0 M7 U( w

5 [; s2 I9 |% G/ D/ h6 lto play the lute to a cow :  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience
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to cast pearls before swine
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2 a% x4 y0 o0 m# J$ z5 [9 g$ wcaviar to the general
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/ l1 g$ L9 t2 d' M# gto preach to deaf ears# t$ a0 m9 B; P+ w* k  g  V+ y

# \) S3 ^# J. R" a0 K$ p; bto talk over sb's head + ~3 c" F8 \0 ~! `* w0 o: @
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.; E6 C9 _( D' C
面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。6 O/ J) j' j0 Q. _" w. S9 w

9 w3 ~6 h! M# {4 \2 b5 vShe read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.
, `$ \2 n5 [1 u* L, z她为他们朗诵莎士比亚著作,但那等于对牛弹琴。3 O; B4 j: e" e$ U
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An nod is as good as a wink to a Blind horse- D1 D8 B- s9 t+ C. [
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play the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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1 U$ [* Q' E' }( L8 Htalk to a Brick wall
0 _/ k0 C% O; c( ?对牛弹琴
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Their hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.! r) b2 c) B9 z! }/ ~, x  Y
他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.
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鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表
* S0 Z$ F( e' M; g* \$ ?估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
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( A0 t6 ?0 P) \3 L3 A0 u( T2 B! o2 ?我找了个老外确认了一下,他们好像完全不知有这个说法。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 12:56 | 显示全部楼层
可能
' B3 N( X0 s  d% _  |可能这种说法太书面语了,也可能out of date了。- j- V' D3 k$ v
也有可能外国人不爱学习,学问高的不多。
" L5 D3 ^' ?. R' @+ K4 }. l还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐,你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。
8 O$ g2 \3 x) i9 J2 `/ V' y不管怎么说,既然字典上有了,就是有这种说法,而且是相当的人知道这种说法,否则就不会遍到字典上去了
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