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why it's swine, why not pig?

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鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
发表于 2009-4-29 11:56 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean pig.
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-29 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
swine    n.
3 k0 i9 a" j4 [. Y; s, a' l' \  P* A1 : any of various stout-bodied short-legged omnivorous artiodactyl mammals (family Suidae) with a thick bristly skin and a long flexible snout especially : a domesticated one descended from the wild boar , ?' j2 h* T$ K. b4 g/ u
2 : a contemptible person
& _# G0 B+ M& | swine fever  $ I; p4 ]: M( E
1 : HOG CHOLERA
" L# I1 B# Z0 e/ I# q: U2 : an acute highly contagious usually fatal disease of swine that is caused by a double-stranded DNA virus (species African swine fever virus of the genus Asfivirus, family Asfarviridae), that resembles but is more severe than hog cholera, and that is indigenous to Africa# c) I% u4 d& ~8 g, p
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The reason to use swine may be that it is more formal a word than pig.
鲜花(25) 鸡蛋(7)
 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-29 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
got u, tks a lot.
鲜花(77) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 17:56 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
Swine Flu but not Pig Flu.
鲜花(5) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-29 21:41 | 显示全部楼层
pig, hog, swine 都含“猪”的意思。
5 P: [( x9 s$ G$ qpig 是常用词, 指“猪”、“小猪”、“猪肉”, 如: roast pig 烤猪肉。/ O. v/ ?1 T5 k0 g  h, s- x% Y1 y
hog 指“阉过供食用的公猪”, 尤指“重量超过一百二十磅的阉过的供食用的公猪”, 如: raise hogs 养猪。
0 n$ y( L& E  o4 Nswine 是文学用语, 指“猪”, 有时借喻“讨厌的人”, 如: You swine! 你这个猪猡!
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(转自金山词霸)
鲜花(20) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 08:29 | 显示全部楼层
Great! Thank you !
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发表于 2009-4-30 09:51 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 兰颜知己 于 2009-4-29 12:56 发表
7 _0 @8 D, i9 I4 I" p. dWith this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine. 面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。
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and from the above sentence, it even doesn't mean  ...

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& j# p6 t& R& {5 n2 r% g8 V# V顺带说一句啊,要想说对牛谈琴的意思不要用这个casting pearls before swine,至少我知在加拿大他们一般不这么说。有时候这些词典真是害人。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:41 | 显示全部楼层
估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.
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发表于 2009-4-30 10:48 | 显示全部楼层
对牛弹琴  ) @* @* d( n& E% K
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to play the lute to a cow :  offering a treat to a unappreciative audience' n' v& R# h1 |
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to cast pearls before swine- E; f& F5 n3 L* W' x. T) S/ K

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, `3 L: |( t$ s! ]( i3 kto preach to deaf ears
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( C6 c+ ~) s0 L1 R+ A, Xto talk over sb's head # O  h- o  s2 n
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% p0 T. x- A# oThe whistle jigs to a milestone.- b0 x8 j' p6 Q4 G0 }0 J
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With this customer, he felt himself, as it were, casting pearls before swine.
3 z" n2 u1 Y/ R面对这个客商,他感到好像是在对牛弹琴。2 `4 n8 i: Y6 Z2 {

% w; Y2 t- p, ?8 P' w5 tShe read them Shakespeare, but it was casting pearls before swine.
: z. y3 M2 r/ U& J- @她为他们朗诵莎士比亚著作,但那等于对牛弹琴。8 @/ Y; e- }: |2 \8 c
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An nod is as good as a wink to a Blind horse
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play the lute to a cow; preach to deaf ears
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talk to a Brick wall8 M) y' j3 G6 Z. v9 \  H5 z5 O
对牛弹琴
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9 y0 F( h1 A5 k6 JTheir hints about his behaviour were water off a duck's back.
3 a5 y- O5 z( ^0 |+ b他们示意他举止不当, 如同对牛弹琴.2 m% R. ]7 g# R6 J% J
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[ 本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 10:49 编辑 ]
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2009-4-30 10:59 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 billzhao 于 2009-4-30 11:41 发表
' Z$ F1 |. }. c/ u  R估计casting pearls before swine是个比较书面话的成语吧,大家都认识,但说话一般不那么说,否则被人说使用 big words.

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我找了个老外确认了一下,他们好像完全不知有这个说法。
鲜花(152) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2009-4-30 12:56 | 显示全部楼层
可能
* M) C5 y" Q& I4 }+ c# m! s0 X可能这种说法太书面语了,也可能out of date了。
$ f5 Y( W/ o2 f  ?也有可能外国人不爱学习,学问高的不多。
1 t2 F9 i- Y( f, J8 |$ K还有可能是人们的知识水平参差不齐,你问的那几个人在正态分布的尾端。
0 t! Q) N8 v6 N3 S% ?不管怎么说,既然字典上有了,就是有这种说法,而且是相当的人知道这种说法,否则就不会遍到字典上去了
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