请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

billzhao

ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗？从老云的帖子里面看时这样的，但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢？

( g& J$ U1 \. O另外，有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么？肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧？

google上找了半天无解，所以上来请教。

FrankSoccer

I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion. # Q& I- {, }& ]/ E , ]0 v( A/ o& AHa Ling Peak & E' N0 ?' G$ b, n, E3 X% i                                                                2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta * r3 E+ c4 n' F# P( W                                                        Latitude 51; 03; 30 Longitude 115; 24; 00, Topo map 82O/03 % a/ t$ H: y# q1 A                                                        5 Q# B5 @0 }7 a                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                6 N- ?7 ]. ^) x( t- ]                                        8 O3 F9 Q! O5 J3 N                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive;	Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates                                                                 More photos
- e  `. P* P0 K/ W7 E& B. k# W+ q                                                Other Information . C' F# T3 Y/ u6 ~6 ?                                                                                                                                        Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore ! v" U+ w; {. T                                                                                                                Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=]. This mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year. % A2 f  s1 _7 R& h 6 U# U9 X1 @9 I1 T$ S5 |8 CHowever this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10. Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?   z9 b  ?9 h/ Q# u6 a ( a9 Y2 H8 \" s. i2 ?# o% S& k[/url][url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                                , J# f" ?; u. J3 P+ w) `% V
Scrambling Routes                                        An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81

billzhao

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* h0 l% i' i$ N! \+ ~6 \谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。

FrankSoccer

It is said to be the best trail in Canada.

kingsnake

這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
" U" a3 _3 Z3 C+ o6 i; b6 |之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.

billzhao

這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29

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* d  e. Q4 d; ?, {' |' ?除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外，还有其他来源吗？
+ M/ m& V$ U8 B3 F那么，Ha ling 姓林名海？
- V6 B  I2 B& f/ a* M8 Z" d中文翻译成叫林海峰，海林峰，哈灵峰？
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! ?1 W' O- S: n7 O8 v4 M% d另外广东话把lin读成ling，hai读成ha？

多谢！

放风儿

谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
billzhao 发表于 2011-10-3 11:09

. u" \$ i" u+ ?2 L9 T& |5 r& A实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak，但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi，所以知道此山不算难。

billzhao

凌海吗？

billzhao

实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。
8 j) z! [7 p% i+ f/ o9 q0 Y放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39

9 F8 J+ L3 v, o5 H1 I入门级更好了，

billzhao

云山水月

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！

8 n4 s& c$ g7 \  \他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。

* f3 t5 \# c6 }9 Z, a( nHa Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的，还有海莲峰的，这就差得比较远。我不会广东话，所以只好猜测这个Ha，其实是姓“夏”，Ling，可能就是“岭”，或者“灵”“陵”“翎”，这个就无从判断了。

如果一定要翻，我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”，听着比较顺口。

你这个问题，或者马健威会有标准答案吧！呵呵。

billzhao

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！

他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。

* ^3 a9 k* Q9 U" z* ~7 y* cHa Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22

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謝謝，有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了，只是好奇而已。

在找到真名之前，先叫他夏靈吧。