I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache1 Z, n% e% f7 M
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Calm down everyone please./ H5 q2 x9 S& Z6 p& |: z
- b' }3 Y; [- k% }不存在 can mean two different things:8 O" U) `. K6 p E6 I
, S8 T) C5 F* U1 w* {) i8 o1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.* a$ k1 j) W6 I; F3 ?
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 # d% L3 o$ B" L9 L4 i. H' Z& F / D5 ^' b7 R+ m3 B* t7 z# wI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist1 Y) E. p. D1 R% a3 |
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表3 |* P; k' \1 @
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache2 ]* z& \, i: T5 G' Z
5 O% ~9 e. ~8 f6 H) |5 E+ VCalm down everyone please. 3 S$ k/ n2 }- w9 i% x/ @! a6 J , u4 ~0 q7 L) |1 Z' i9 e不存在 can mean two different things:+ g) d1 k( F0 e8 J/ P. b Y7 C
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc./ G/ y8 I. w8 O- f7 j: Y
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 ) e" F0 a% M& t5 {" u: v$ A) R( d5 \: `. G+ M# [1 z
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
& ~8 u% T2 j! e; \ t, P0 I" @% Q$ a P* j3 p Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?& k* M9 T, y F6 T
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表 & a+ r3 z; v/ {; E0 t/ h- T7 D " k. b' p: X5 ]' L; R & f% M6 G- p" C1 A2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!) T. X7 x4 q* \: k8 b
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
6 s j% X: ?7 @/ B8 Y- q! Y6 aArguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) 9 W4 h% _. p. \% [ G7 d" S; O* u0 t& E% u, b0 y( \, H
Maybe we should stop argument. 6 a' [3 D7 x4 G' y
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My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion . H$ q p( K- C x) |4 y7 o& I* S- W$ j, f# t: e6 c/ Z
[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]