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美国基督教长老会允许同性恋人员担任教职
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http://www.sina.com.cn 2006年06月21日09:58 中国新闻网
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　　中新网6月21日电据路透社报道，美国基督教长老会规模最大的机构20日通过一项决议，决定在一定条件下允许同性恋男女担任教会教职。
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; |& t) n( Y6 h! j) A' f　　基督教长老会(美国)当天在由500名代表参加的教会会议上，以57%：43%的投票通过了上述决议。这一决议让地方教会在决定是否任命忠于教会核心价值观的同性恋人士担任教职时有了更多回旋余地。

如云

NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5 v, D2 r" H$ ?4 j; G     and never turn God's word away because man!!!!!!!

Dawson

原帖由 Sherry.Zheng 于 2006-6-23 12:35 发表
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     and never turn God's word away because man!!!!!!!

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% ~( p4 ^0 _5 ?6 cDoes that mean you discriminate against homosexual? or should I flush your words down the toilet because you;re not speaking God's will either?

happytom

应该是社会发展的结果!

如云

I discriminate against homosexual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawson

原帖由 Sherry.Zheng 于 2006-6-26 12:33 发表
I discriminate against homosexual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Calm down little one, so you're saying that discrimination is Christian?

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-23 13:22 发表

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# n' h/ D! b% I" b( c% XDoes that mean you discriminate against homosexual? or should I flush your words down the toilet because you;re not speaking God's will either?

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God's will and social order are two different standards and should not to be compared here.

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Sherry.Zheng 于 2006-6-26 12:33 发表
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You may against it personally but not discriminate it by currently social value and laws.

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-26 12:52 发表


Calm down little one, so you're saying that discrimination is Christian?

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Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Sherry.Zheng 于 2006-6-23 12:35 发表
$ z7 ~. C; v' JNO!NO!NO!NO!NO!NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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6 [6 I. m0 z1 E) k: W; V1 J6 V离开神的真道的人，不管其名号是甚么“基督教”之类的东西，到头来在神的审判面前他们知道结果是甚么，你别过于激动。

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 16:02 发表

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I think you're full of it, who are you to judge those who "betray" "God's will"?

8 u0 @. ^" `! s* AAnd what is "God's will" anyway? Doesn't everyone have his own answer to it?

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 15:59 发表

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, @8 ^9 S+ g2 R( Q: s0 ?Explain please!

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-26 16:23 发表


I think you're full of it, who are you to judge those who "betray" "God's will"?

And what is "God's will" anyway? Doesn't everyone have his own answer to it?

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* W8 G6 j' ~7 C( Jyou'd better read the bible yourself.

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 15:55 发表

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So God's will allow followers to discriminate against homosexual personally but not publicly? How ironic is that? Sorry just had to laugh! HAHA!

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 16:25 发表
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5 W& w9 d' ~6 u4 i. {you'd better read the bible yourself.

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No sir! You don't tell me anything, I am telling you.

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 15:54 发表
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God's will and social order are two different standards and should not to be compared here.

Explain please?

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-26 16:25 发表
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1 ^' }5 C9 [# c1 U/ y8 I" q9 nNo sir! You don't tell me anything, I am telling you.

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再用中文解释一次，要想知道神的旨意，圣经中都记载了，自己读最好，不要听别人说，包括不要听我说。

Dawson

Never mind, it's a wasting of time anyway, and please don't even bother explaining "God's will" to me, please don't, I've heard enough seen enough in the news everyday.

Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 16:32 发表

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再用中文解释一次，要想知道神的旨意，圣经中都记载了，自己读最好，不要听别人说，包括不要听我说。

Then why did you bother?

Zhujiaolian

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-26 16:33 发表
; e# v) X2 ]0 Q# O+ o$ P7 iNever mind, it's a wasting of time anyway, and please don't even bother explaining "God's will" to me, please don't, I've heard enough seen enough in the news everyday.

I wish you do not have problem of understanding in either English or Chinese. I told you to read bible not to read the news in order to understand the God's will. 读圣经不是读新闻。

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Dawson

原帖由 Zhujiaolian 于 2006-6-26 17:07 发表

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& @/ i, i. o, F0 X! x/ b' KI wish you do not have problem of understanding in either English or Chinese. I told you to read bible not to read the news in order to understand the God's will. 读圣经不是读新闻。

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Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.
(Leviticus 18:22)
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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
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I've read bible many times,  will you be so kind to answer this question?
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According to the 2nd quote, Gay and Lesbian people shall be put to death, but God also says "Thou shalt not murder", so killing  gay or lesbian people is a sin or not?
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( x# d2 z" r4 dBTW, isn't belittling other people a sin also? I suggest you go to the church tonight and fess up.

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dogyear

原帖由 Dawson 于 2006-6-26 18:34 发表

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(Leviticus 18:22)
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#17 不是说让你别听他/她说的吗，你还问个什么劲儿呢？

Dawson

原帖由 dogyear 于 2006-6-26 19:47 发表
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0 ]! P- S( y) {  m#17 不是说让你别听他/她说的吗，你还问个什么劲儿呢？

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