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饶毅致《自然》杂志总编的信。9 i% G/ A. b% j) S  b" Y; N. I
就像当年傅莹在英国《星期日电讯报》上发文一样,要争取到话语权、影响别人的认识,就得多一点这样的人。
0 n) J6 n9 h1 A总体上中国对外宣传还是以自己的思维方式,效果不彰。
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* u& ]9 q5 D0 [6 V0 o: q' Ihttp://blog.sciencenet.cn/blog-2237-598917.html
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) N$ U8 L! g5 B/ H2 c致《自然》杂志总编的信:有关叶诗文的新闻报道  精选# n$ V1 |, |8 ]2 {

# d! P: h6 i; d英文原信附后,大意如下:
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斐尔,
' ^; W% m1 I8 h- c' y4 t) _, f       你可能因Ewen Callaway对叶诗文的报道而被email狂炸,过去二十小时,给你1 A; {1 v. _" k& o- l
email的人里面小部分也给我来信。/ T% L. W; V( {! v9 `' G
       如果你奇怪《自然》非本质部分一篇报道为何带来这么大的反应,你应该高兴
" ]) C" _, n2 r6 W+ S+ L" v中文读者比世界其他读者更看重你们的新闻报道,与科学相关的(即使关系很小)也可# C, j* ~3 r. b+ V! D0 A# U! Y
能重于《纽约时报》,中文媒体报道用你们的新闻也远多于一般西方媒体用你们的新闻。) G* l7 C& ~5 G1 j; m3 M5 P2 e
       Callaway报道最好也是草率、最差是种族偏见:1)最初的副标题暗示叶可能舞
( b9 _, _. ?' J4 }  R) w弊; 2)Callaway用了两件事实说明叶惊人地异常,而两件都错了; 3)Callaway没咨询意
* w/ W* ?+ n" `- C; Z8 t. y' l; O9 c见不同的专家,导致报道不平衡,低于公平报道的最低标准。所以,Callaway至少不负) Z0 ~  ]" ?$ U# Y# W% A* {& \; b+ B
责任,可能太快就暗示中国运动员容易舞弊。他肯定没有达到新闻报道的通常标准。+ ]/ Z3 r  `1 m
       我很高兴看到在我草拟此信的过程中,《自然》可能意识到了原副标题的偏见' Z& N; Z# J" _: U4 x' M, Q+ o
,将之由“成绩追踪记录有助于抓体育舞弊者”更正为“成绩追踪记录有助于驱散疑问
4 i" s' `! n4 X  q/ w* Y: E”。舞弊的前设改为疑问。5 A1 F8 U4 B, m1 K. d, b
       Callaway报道用的两个“事实”让叶诗文看起来比真实的要更“异常”:说她
2 C& w; G$ C2 ?; x& h比自己在2012年7月的记录要快7秒,说她在最后五十米比男子冠军Ryan Lochte还要快' j, F% ^* ]$ p5 `: Q
,而后者是男子第二快的世界纪录。
2 Y0 p) R% \# T9 L       第一个“事实”错了,第二个误导。1)叶比自己只快5秒,而此前她的记录创于
: V" j: s1 R% k- G# ^2011年、不是2012年,这位16岁运动员用了一年而不是少于4周刷新自己。2)叶只在混
' C7 i) G, w( E& N3 \7 X" X合泳400米中最后自由泳一段比Lochte快,而非整个400米。Lochte在400米是世界第二
8 L8 A0 u% Q) |, h1 K快的记录,叶在400米丝毫不能接近他(慢了二十多秒)。叶只是自由泳最强,而在前. m. f8 c& K2 V+ L
300米落后于好些女选手。虽然Lochte在400米很快,他在最后50米的自由泳慢于五、六8 L8 D+ {$ W8 T% U  ?  y
位男选手。叶最后五十米自由泳也慢于那些男子。所以,叶只在她自己的强项而他的弱
; ~( [. [: K. D' u0 r项快于Lochte。如果Callaway多做的功课,他就难以用这些“事实”来使“问题”醒目
) l1 B; N3 A9 ?  [0 {& Z。如果Callaway多查询,他就能发现其他游泳运动员也曾在十几岁发育阶段显著提高记& C  O. l8 Z3 T4 {1 {
录。这些事实更正后,Callaway的报道就没基础。8 z2 B, \7 K" N* y0 l4 w1 [
还有好些事实,可以让一般读者更理解叶诗文的成绩,我不在此赘述。可以参见《附件
0 E9 d* m0 s( E" W* K1》,wikipedia对叶的成就有一个相当快而公平的描述。署名的《自然》报道应该优于
* K* G/ ]5 d% c% s$ ]: V; wWikipedia。Callaway报道与Wikipedia条目的差别也显示该记者未采访已经公开提出不! {3 w  t; m$ B. }% E
同意见的专家。- O* s3 V, X, I( i8 F  V$ E
你应该收到了"XXX"博士的一封email。他在发表多篇《自然》和《自然神经科学》的
( [4 v7 v. I7 d' a第一作者论文后,获得"XX"学院的博士,并因此获有声誉的奖学金到"XX"大
0 \! ?: X$ w. C0 k, `; x学做独立的博士后。万一他给你的email埋在你收到的成百上千邮件中,我将其拷贝为) z" g5 E+ k8 o$ S
《附件2》。他email给了我、要我看看此事。! l0 q. {& z, {5 z* g
Callaway在线报道下面有很多跟帖讨论。有些学生以为有些很有道理(且有实质内容)
! B' Z8 X) ?% ]的讨论被删了,他们寄给了我。我选Lai Jiang的一份为《附件3》,Zhenxi Zhang的为
$ V* n+ T- _) v《附件4》。你们可以看到学生和一些更有经历的《自然》读者不高兴是有依据的,而. d! N/ j* Z0 C( {1 `/ _7 c  ^8 B
这些被Callaway忽略。
8 `' ?$ `( h5 d8 h  B' h4 s8 e英国人常常忘记、而现代华人不易忘记,世界上很多人以为鸦片战争是中国人卖鸦片给# @) l8 q; W1 T2 v4 t4 v/ W0 D
英国人。我自己6月份(这确是2012年)又经历一次,我和一位老朋友(麻省理工学院
7 e+ _# i" Y, P( l0 [+ O5 v教授)在香港开会时,发现她竟然也是这么认为。
" I# P5 \; A2 q& k  c1 _( P英国人的国际形象好,部分原因是你们的科学和科学家:当全世界中学生都要从教科书) ~2 ^( ]" h) i4 e) [* I5 B
学牛顿和达尔文,英国赢得了世界的尊重。《自然》应该以这些伟大(且客观)的科学0 Q  g! k5 s2 i' P& y
家建立的传统和声誉为自豪。他们其中有些曾在《自然》发表过论文,才有《自然》的
2 l  H" A, T9 O* r: r& O今天。你们如果采取措施修复你们的新闻记者造成的损害,可以加强你们的声誉。% t9 Z+ I' @, y$ J) r+ r
英国人从来没因鸦片战争对我们道歉,即使在1997年离开香港时也未显示丝毫悔意。而/ z$ ^2 f  I; X2 K# i# T! B! O/ U9 Z
香港是英国在鸦片战争后强迫我们割让的土地。所以,记忆是犹新的,而不仅是1840年) A4 z3 E* V' v% Q% H
代的残余。如果《自然》拒绝承认此报道不公平,可能很难“驱散”英国至上的“疑问2 X6 O: C& e) L# R5 a( X3 l3 o7 z
”(借用《自然》对叶报道的词汇)。+ H8 W( k+ F0 |
中国人受形象不佳的牵累。我们也知道我们还有很多感到羞耻的未解决的问题,包括舞7 E  @" i( d0 P6 U5 k4 S* g8 ~
弊。越来越多的中国人能接受合理与平衡的批评,我们在伦敦奥运会为我们羽毛球的问  I+ y) D: Q4 X1 y- e! g% _
题公开道歉就是证据。但我们对缺依据、有偏见的批评还很敏感。叶诗文不过是个16岁' a# R% f0 U6 X; B1 m
的年轻人,本该为自己职业生涯的成就而庆贺。当已知她通过了奥运会赛前、赛中多次" G' n9 @$ c9 J' L. B
测试,而毫无证据指责她的时候,却有很多媒体,特别是《自然》这样的刊物,的渲染( j$ Z' r0 f# P; p& ^' A
而导致负面舆论多于正面,当然令人深感不平。% j4 J& V% b4 r- H
我希望你们能澄清记录,发表平衡Callaway报道的意见。7 J& {! z/ I) l/ V5 m" p9 j
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北京大学生命科学学院 神经生物学教授 饶毅) a: N- u; h5 b& B/ p
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附件1 Wikipedia对叶诗文的总结7 j( H' e$ @6 i& o6 {, k3 t  i1 P
附件2 伯克利加州大学王立明的email/ T' G8 H2 R8 F9 c- g3 m# ^$ L
附件3 Lai Jiang在Callaway报道后的意见5 R5 H) B( t8 l& N, Z- x
附件 4 Zhenxi Zhang在Callaway报道后的意见
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+ L0 K& o6 I" h6 s/ `2 c8 W! E原文(2012年8月4日1:57am发送)4 h$ x+ I; j: Q9 J/ p$ V: V2 f
Dear Phil,
) C/ S2 u% k6 `: _9 Q       You might have been bombarded with emails about Ewen Callaway’s
8 c+ A- U, _7 N- C3 a7 m, ]) a$ ?report on the Chinese Olympic gold medalist Ye Shiwen. Over the last 20
* q; R6 m# ^& p2 W' h! mhours, I have received emails from a small fraction of those who had emailed$ _; h  o: |# N7 \* B
you.
5 q2 x# f9 W) b' l       If you wonder why a piece in a non-essential section of Nature have
  k& r9 e) S) {5 Z3 H9 C. f( Ebrought you so much response, you should be happy to know that Chinese
8 n  M5 ^" F  Creaders place much more weight in Nature news reports than the rest of the
8 N( d5 @5 T/ N# b/ L  \* d" Q  y9 [( xworld does. If an event is related to science (even tangentially) and Nature: ^* I0 B6 o3 i! Z5 s) @
publishes a news report, many Chinese readers treat the Nature report more
1 k9 f6 ?5 E2 Mseriously than New York Times. Chinese news media also use Nature news5 |, w$ i- @- B1 a+ Q! i% u3 {$ x0 L
pieces much more than the regular Western news media would.5 T1 g6 t+ H; @/ X1 K
       The Callaway report was sloppy at the best and racially biased at the
' f4 A) y: y6 c: q" d8 T  Tworst: 1) the original subtitle implied cheating on Ye’s part, setting a6 q# \* o& d1 L4 V+ o$ R4 `$ ?
negative tone for the report; 2) Callaway presented two facts to establish
, L/ d' q: S, @1 [. f5 A7 i) T0 athat Ye was strikingly anomalous, but both “facts” were wrong; 3) Callaway! Q) U- y+ k. I  e2 M
did not check with experts whose opinions did not supported the doping5 Q% g  h+ F3 s$ ?0 }, W4 b
explanation, and thus did not provide a balance report that is the minimal
0 o7 W/ f" J$ N3 b* nstandard of fair reporting. Therefore, Callaway is at least irresponsible,. g* F) p9 A& O% \
and could have jumped too quickly to imply that Chinese athletes were prone# Z$ Z: u7 ^3 T; x5 X, x0 H
to cheating. He has certainly not held onto the usual standard of news
; ~* i8 ?. }  t. freporting.
  P3 U& R+ Y( q! D2 [& c& c       I am glad that, while I was drafting this letter, Nature may have0 @6 Z. Z; \! D! P( a" Y. B
already noticed the bias in the original subtitle and corrected it by8 I' _  y) w* ]# D- E4 J8 c
changing it from “Performance profiling could help to catch cheaters in- b+ Q  h" J5 |- c) _+ l8 A2 t
sports” to “Performance profiling could help to dispel doubts”. A
/ m: r5 S* F2 V6 ~/ Apresumption of cheating has changed to doubts.
0 z) M# x  I9 R6 F       The Callaway report presented two “facts” which made Ye Shiwen seem9 G4 y! s( L$ J& j; O
more “anomalous” than she really was by stating: that she was 7 seconds3 m1 [& n9 x& W
faster than herself in the same event in July 2012, and that, in the last 50$ h0 c$ d  M- J8 ~; y" }- k& v
meters, she was faster than Ryan Lochte, the gold medalist of the same+ d# z" m# U3 E+ j& |+ n2 |5 i. C
event for men, with the second fastest record.
* l- A+ `3 \. W0 T$ m- F* e: _) r+ Q* ^       The first “fact” was wrong, while the second was misleading. 1) Ye, r* p  j# P0 _& y6 a- ]% K) t
was only ~5 seconds faster than her own record in July, 2011, giving the 16
4 o3 J1 h6 X; h4 m0 f* Lyear old a full year rather than less than 4 weeks to improve her own record
7 n% N% N( y4 s5 T' u' n. 2) Ye was faster than Lochte only in the freestyle, not for the entire 400
# ~9 X  J1 Y" I* d4 N, Z( Nmeters. Lochte’s time was the second fastest for the entire 400 meters,
& q1 h- c, f) X& l$ hfor which Ye was not even close (she was more than 20 seconds slower than
! ^1 s- K6 u% G4 ALochte in 400 meters). Ye was only at her best in freestyle and trailed
2 Y8 w( E# M" p9 N$ E, |behind other women in the same event in the first 300 meters of the3 J- C* j9 B2 @9 o' L" l; f' g
individual medley. While Lochte was the fastest in 400 meters, he was slower
5 J% O. Z$ O* _8 H# t' A8 @& ^. [- Hthan 5 or 6 men in the last 50 meters of freestyle. Ye was slower than
- D4 p& ^5 ^; H0 M! Zthose other men. Thus, Ye was only faster than Lochte in a style that was/ ~1 U, U5 d. f4 F# d# P
her strength and his weakness. Had Callaway done a bit more home work, then& x" P  v" v; a# N! _/ a
he would have had a hard time to use these “facts” to highlight the “
1 Y/ Y7 `  ]+ `* {8 qproblem”. Had Callaway done double-checking, he would have found that other
# T* B: d% C) @6 ]5 I$ w7 `) [. |swimmers had significantly improved their own records when they were in the
, l7 W1 [* y8 p" t- L& steens. Corrections of these facts would have changed the basis for the
! i- ]3 V" j# `" r! m; {% _' wCallaway report.+ u9 T# i5 a4 e
There are more facts that would have made the performance of Ye Shiwen more: |/ g; K* s' W1 M7 U% c  J1 x# m5 c
understandable to the general readership, which I will not go into details
  R% u+ l# u6 y- lhere. See Attachment 1 for an amazingly quick and well-balanced description
' U& v  I$ S8 h- F3 [1 p0 m4 @of Ye’s performance by Wikipedia. Signed reports in Nature should have been
0 U6 D) F2 \/ {" ?9 @better than Wikipedia. The contrast between the Callaway report and the
; Q6 ~% ^$ _5 l9 t7 L6 g  WWikipedia item shows that the reporter did not interview experts who had
+ [" o# J0 d+ \5 X; U) gpublicly voiced different opinions.
. ]+ Q; Q7 v* ~( c4 ^; L6 fYou should have received an email from Dr.XXX, who obtained a PhD
6 F" F4 R8 B' P( n9 _0 A! x3 wfrom xxx after publishing first author papers in Nature and Nature  h: `0 l' H. x% b; d$ q1 I1 n
Neuroscience. He was awarded a prestigious fellowship for an independent1 c/ Y- E- G) n/ m4 T* L  ]. p# s3 Z
postdoc at xxx. In case his email has been buried among the hundreds- G4 \& _3 K- F' s3 s
you have received, I am copying it here as Attachment 2. He had sent a copy0 A, {4 c2 n# F) S. ]
of his email to me and asked me to look at the issue.
) m1 \" _! I$ H$ NThere are many online posts below the Callaway report. Some students think
$ n6 t$ b8 Q1 ^' m) D3 Gthat a few very reasonable (and substantive) posts have been deleted. They
' h$ S- t+ a- X5 d3 R: I- Uhave sent these to me and I am including one authored by Lai Jiang as
/ g4 O# n4 |: C. N5 G  D4 O0 oAttachment 3 and another by Zhenxi Zhang as Attachment 4. You can see that1 w; P; w7 N7 |$ I0 }; D; n
the anger of students and more established scientists who read Nature was6 A8 M5 W% Q' }+ v6 J
supported by facts neglected by Callaway.4 i2 g7 |$ d+ X1 P
One point the British often forget, but the modern Chinese do not, is that
/ Z% k* ^* f. l* N# W+ P  Zmany in the world wrongly think that the Opium Wars occurred because the; i9 i" w& Z0 g: q8 W) m
Chinese sold opium to the British. I had personally experienced this in June9 [: ~3 }( q, Q7 y# J
(2012) when a long time friend of mine at MIT thought that way while she5 x( s, K" \, t9 Y9 ^2 t
and I were in Hong Kong attending a meeting.8 n' ?# C. K* K" A# b& o- W. u
The British have a good international image, partly because of your science
4 S; v5 ?$ B3 C% W3 [7 a% xand your scientists: when every middle school student has to know Newton and
, u8 u! C  z% D  ]& [Darwin in textbooks, the entire Britain wins the respect of the world.+ l! g1 ^' e1 i6 F0 Z! H' C- |2 d4 _
Nature should be proud of the tradition and prestige built by the great (and
( E' O& F6 b; Wobjective) scientists, some of whom have published in Nature to make Nature; S9 |0 W0 s0 A& P3 m+ X
what it is today. Your prestige will be strengthened when you take steps to
! s* k: ^8 H  Crepair the damage caused by your news reporters.
3 b" e) Y) x0 ]* ^! V6 ^3 ^6 SThe British have never apologized to us about the Opium Wars and did not
) I& N. A7 x0 c; L' mshow slight remorse when leaving Hong Kong in 1997 which the British forced
: M# s( m# Y" M1 }% dus to cede after the British won the Opium Wars. So the memory is rather
6 G  b, @' X5 P# w9 ^# pfresh, not just lingering from the 1840s. If Nature refuses to admit that
" q5 C& a8 ?$ F6 Z) n" N+ ~& J4 ithis report was not balanced, it will be difficult to “dispel doubts”2 C+ r; X9 S, t5 V' U2 U" j, h
about British supremacy.
7 I! Z+ W2 s5 w! a9 LThe Chinese suffer from a poor image. We also know that we have many% K: R6 R* r; r) f% o; ]3 p
unsolved problems that we are ashamed of, including cheating. More and more
; ~' I  g! Y+ g3 P/ SChinese are receptive to legitimate and balanced criticism, as evidenced by) T! f7 l9 H1 {$ |
our public apology for our faults at the badminton games during the London/ H# [; [+ f6 \& {( K; T
Olympic. But we are sensitive to ill-founded criticism with apparent biases.
! W& W' f# v% I4 aYe Shiwen is only a 16 year old and should have enjoyed her moment of2 W' L& J  r, a% ?* H- _% w
professional achievement. When she is known to have passed multiple tests  X/ B+ g' ?% ~& ^
before and during the London Olympic and there is no evidence to accuse her,) J0 _% f! w3 Q5 l5 ^6 |$ u
it is certainly unjustified when the negative opinions were highly* T# v% q- h; }6 f% d8 `
publicized but the positive ones were not, especially in a journal like* H; Z$ O$ i' s  Y
Nature.
/ {; j+ i8 r6 |I hope that you will set record straight and publish opinions that balance# m/ \* f; ^1 t% Q2 y
the Callaway report.( |: j: u; q  R/ S& ]% U) d" V

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Yi Rao, Ph.D.
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好文,这个才是教授,不是叫兽。
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老杨团队 追求完美
原文发表在哪里, Nature News?
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Callaway报道是种族偏见!!!
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FrankSoccer 发表于 2012-8-5 08:18 ! d3 s. D8 Z3 G: \" x
原文发表在哪里, Nature News?
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原文是公开信。
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; C3 A8 v: x& R6 I4 Y小胜  http://2012.sina.com.cn/cn/aq/2012-08-07/054745942.shtml
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bigsnail 发表于 2012-8-6 21:16
7 o0 ?' m6 ]/ E9 h原文是公开信。' y! S0 p3 B8 S7 K- g
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小胜  http://2012.sina.com.cn/cn/aq/2012-08-07/054745942.shtml
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谢谢。好像那个什么杂志已经道歉了。
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其实比饶毅更牛的回复是 Upenn 的 LAI JIANG
5 S' ]4 t5 ]. s$ o: V4 U7 z( J+ F如果是中国长大的,英语能到这种程度真是很不简单。% D+ e9 i8 X& E/ a$ d3 X! u

5 q- t; m5 v2 r2 c- f4 k* z$ }! f" bhttp://www.sas.upenn.edu/rappegroup/htdocs/People/LJ.html
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FROM LAI JIANG, Department of Chemistry, University of Pennsylvania, h6 U/ d" L, i0 M+ t- z

) I  @7 |. j/ mIt is a shame to see Nature — which nearly all scientists, including myself
) _) l. D: q0 s: ?6 h, regard as one of the most prestigious and influential physical-science
9 }2 A& @% Y! d  j2 tmagazines — publish a thinly veiled biased article like this. Granted, this4 S' b7 S7 O: G9 J# {
is not a peer-reviewed scientific article and did not go through the
& m, o$ L5 P9 }0 I8 N. D$ Yscrutiny of picking referees. But to serve as a channel for the general
6 Z4 Y# a/ X, w7 L4 L$ cpopulace to be in touch with and appreciate science, the authors and editors
- Q( c4 t+ R/ k) l" I4 }should at least present the readers with facts within the proper context,7 `# @$ X3 j  R" X
which they blatantly failed to do.7 M: I. ?3 I4 {, ~

( o/ B, @* ~! y) fFirst, to identify Ye’s performance increase, Ewen Callaway compared her8 B4 M2 v% Y, U+ t
Olympic 400-metre IM time with her performance at the World Championships in
+ X. P8 ]$ a3 O  a2011 (4:28.43 and 4:35.15, respectively) and concluded that she had an “8 i( F5 C! O* j4 ^
anomalous” improvement of around 7 seconds (6.72 s). In fact, her previous) x6 x$ p) ^: v$ U/ t
personal best was 4:33.79 at the Asian Games in 2010. This leads to an
  Q$ Z& h/ O' K& M& l4 ]6 {improvement of 5.38 seconds. In a sporting event in which 0.1 s can be the
' i1 m9 K% `- h( K  h! Wdifference between the gold and silver medal, I see no reason for 5.38 s to
. X; z+ K9 A+ `2 h1 [) @be treated as 7 s.
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Second, as previously pointed out, Ye is only 16 years old and her body is
) ]/ f3 _6 L1 F# S3 O; R$ Y3 Q. H; Estill developing. Bettering oneself by 5 seconds over two years may seem% ^! {+ C, k% p  {, p! q
impossible for an adult swimmer, but it certainly happens among youngsters.
& W4 W+ x0 P* ^: T) ^9 f, tAn interview with Australian gold medallist Ian Thorpe revealed that his 400
) v# U  d) F5 c  w-metre freestyle time improved by 5 seconds between the ages of 15 and 16.
7 p. l+ J" p" o& j1 MFor regular people, including Callaway, it may be hard to imagine what an1 S7 c( `4 f; L/ v) x$ ?; O: J5 x7 S  d
elite swimmer can achieve as he or she matures and undergoes scientific and  c; L6 J% v) c! a0 h
persistent training. But jumping to the conclusion that it is “anomalous”
' G2 b5 J- l# e! @+ S! k0 ?based on ‘Oh that’s so tough I cannot imagine it is real’ is hardly sound.
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( C# k; E$ J7 G. x; ^8 UThird, to compare Ryan Lochte’s last 50 metres to Ye’s is a textbook9 F4 }& d9 ^8 ~; z
example of ‘cherry-picking’ your data. Yes, Lochte was slower than Ye in
, t% k8 e7 a4 A  P% b7 J( mthe last 50 metres, but Lochte had a huge lead in the first 300 metres, so
5 p5 h4 R+ Y) Y& c, P" \, {he chose not to push himself too hard and to conserve his energy for later
- v: \, U& ~) pevents (whether this conforms to the Olympic spirit and the ‘use one’s' T" S6 z8 s2 M
best efforts to win a match’ requirement that the Badminton World
: e9 o: j9 J. O3 FFederation recently invoked to disqualify four badminton pairs is another6 v- k' @6 b. ~# C1 Y8 V+ G
topic worth discussing, though probably not in Nature). Ye, on the other
$ m; a) g, K9 Q, W. v' T3 xhand, was trailing behind after the first 300 metres and relied on freestyle
, l0 W- [' K( m: p, in which she has an edge, to win the race. Failing to mention this6 |. f& ]' x* a8 Q# H
strategic difference, as well as the fact that Lochte is 23.25 seconds1 w' G* f- Y0 n) V" }* X" P7 k; C
faster (4:05.18) than Ye overall, creates the illusion that a woman swam: T  W- o" V# Z; P/ r  }! O
faster than the best man in the same sport, which sounds impossible. Putting
- T3 u+ a6 G  n0 P$ i3 c& Oaside the gender argument, I believe this is still a leading question that
7 i5 k1 e, s* J4 Limplies to the reader that there is something fishy going on.
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4 ?8 ?+ e$ x; _" ?* E9 E3 nFourth is another example of cherry-picking. In the same event, there are
2 N* q( [3 ~/ a% k' Mfour male swimmers who swam faster than both Lochter (29.10 s) and Ye (28.93
) z( E5 e" Z+ w$ R6 S" A% bs) in the final 50 metres: Kosuke Hagino (28.52 s), Michael Phelps (28.44 s( @, h/ X2 z7 s2 z( a
), Yuya Horihata (27.87 s) and Thomas Fraser-Holmes (28.35 s). As it turns5 _0 D+ K6 N3 Z( t( E
out, if we are just talking about the last 50 metres in a 400-metre IM," o/ v) H, o) N1 ~
Lochter is not the example I would have used if I were the author. What kind9 F1 O, ?' D- w# b! h) m* X: V2 U6 P
of scientific rigorousness is Callaway trying to demonstrate here? Is it
* C" i0 S* v1 k* J6 e: Y% _9 Y) Clogical that if Lochter is the champion, we should assume that he leads in
& s6 e. p$ f. bevery split? That would be a terrible way to teach the public how science
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Fifth is the issue I oppose the most. Callaway quotes Ross Tucker and- {5 w/ T' f- v& y  u! a% q
implies that a drug test cannot rule out the possibility of doping. Is this9 N0 h/ {5 w" \
kind of agnosticism what Nature really wants to teach its readers? By that/ r# ?. b* P! Z9 _1 L- {
standard, I estimate that at least half of the peer-reviewed scientific8 z: A+ m7 z, I& B# j( y/ B
papers in Nature should be retracted. How can one convince the editors and
  A$ Z. [5 I3 _7 D3 @reviewers that their proposed theory works for every possible case? One3 N* G, [1 c8 `0 U* g- F* `$ r
cannot. One chooses to apply the theory to typical examples and to
% [9 S* [# a4 c. ^demonstrate that in (hopefully) all scenarios considered, the theory works
  S7 V/ F% `" `2 Zto a degree, and that that should warrant publication until a counterexample
( W; D7 L  ^+ w" ]is found. I could imagine that Callaway has a sceptical mind, which is
1 _# q. t( D* C9 ^0 Ucrucial to scientific thinking, but that would be put to better use if he
9 u! i' N% X% lwrote a peer-reviewed paper that discussed the odds of Ye doping on a highly3 g, ]" ?7 C! n$ @1 N1 G
advanced, non-detectable drug that the Chinese have come up with in the
, m2 H* v$ e0 k# Zpast 4 years (they obviously did not have it in Beijing, otherwise why not; J/ w6 a% z2 A( k
use it and woo the audience at home?), based on data and rational derivation, F2 x  \: O6 i$ }; ~
. This article, however, can be interpreted as saying that all athletes are
1 n% {7 ~3 W. T& ~doping and the authorities are just not good enough to catch them. That may
$ {, M) Q1 S5 n: i" p1 t4 w( [! U  O* x5 r& mbe true, logically, but definitely will not make the case if there is ever a
, Q  B" }+ K% Q; I/ i+ P2 L2 Dhearing by the governing body for water sports, FINA, to determine if Ye2 A+ D. B3 E+ z+ ^2 V4 W! M6 p5 O& E
has doped. To ask whether it is possible to obtain a false negative in a% z# M( i) ^6 p
drug test looks like a rigged question to me. Of course it is possible:: N/ S1 Y, A/ B
other than the athlete taking a drug that the test is not designed to detect
' V. S  Q8 Z1 M3 \  ], N  W. e. A, anyone who has taken quantum 101 will tell you that everything is9 i, z  s/ [" ~2 w1 C  u2 g
probabilistic in nature, and so there is a probability that the drug in an
, r+ Q8 X" `3 h3 v. uathlete’s system could tunnel out right at the moment of the test. A slight- |( a0 X4 N; k5 u
chance it may be, but should we disregard all test results because of it?3 q8 [+ X. ~" ~, A
Let’s be practical and reasonable, and accept that the World Anti-Doping
1 }8 K. W$ ?6 g# C# lagency (WADA) is competent at its job. Ye’s urine sample will be stored for* n" h' D% R" i8 W7 E, x: I
eight years after the contest for future testing as technology advances.$ ?& O4 I% a7 P; w  s; \
Innocent until proven guilty, shouldn’t it be?
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1 h9 T/ m3 F! k1 `* w9 hSixth, and the last point I would like to make, is that the out-of-- l; H/ y8 J' u
competition drug test is already in effect, which Callaway failed to mention3 B" v, g* R1 N7 N, J4 d& `5 N
. As noted in the president of WADA’s press release, drug testing for5 }9 m3 N) R& y
Olympians began at least six months before the opening of the London
! f; W5 H$ F3 A; h6 W# l7 D9 Y4 zOlympics. Furthermore, 107 athletes have been banned from this Olympics for
- T0 Z1 S3 i# ^! _2 Ndoping. That may be the reason that “everyone will pass at the Olympic7 m5 m5 T4 y/ ]) z, Q
games. Hardly anyone fails in competition testing” —  those who did dope+ Z7 O) H  Z* S3 `  L5 W! ], B
have already been caught and sanctioned. Callaway is free to suggest that a% F1 ], {) P. @  e+ ^* r* [
player could have doped beforehand and fooled the test at the game, but this
0 N# r6 N  Z0 b/ O8 n3 K3 m5 spossibility is certainly ruled out for Ye.$ R/ _" y2 F9 b; {2 _
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Over all, even though Callaway did not falsify any data, he did (
, T% V4 [; I) }) u6 G% A  Gintentionally or not) cherry-pick data that, in my view, are far too1 X# {' e& ~1 X: q( H
suggestive to be fair and unbiased. If you want to cover a story of a! X7 P- A" q% ]5 _# J' S9 }$ a
suspected doping from a scientific point of view, be impartial and provide
) ^5 D" G1 q* g7 o; S/ {$ `% hall the facts for the reader to judge. You are entitled to your4 X" d9 W$ v+ F
interpretation of the facts, and the expression thereof in your piece,8 v: ]5 t# K! w2 Z
explicitly or otherwise, but showing only evidence that favours your
! i/ D8 D2 V0 i3 oargument is hardly good science or journalism. Such an article in a journal
& }2 z2 D& V4 j& x. esuch as Nature is not an appropriate example of how scientific research or
; `# f7 j% S  C- g6 y  y8 Y- Greporting should be done.
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