美音中到底有没有长元英 /凹:/

suvescape

; [0 }! W+ C) q1 E. r美音中到底有没有长元英 /凹:/
如:
+ w9 t8 ^% b1 z9 Gcaught, lawn, pawn 的/凹:/在美音中全部读为/凹/;
美音中: talk, lawn, pawn, 和 hot, non, 的元音居然都是一样的?

看<american accent training>一书惊讶的发现?
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难道和中国南方人一样,十,四不分?
; A7 C: M* ^$ O3 v4 c. x我看还是加拿大英语好听些.

annieyang

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6 g9 F1 ~, ]: Y"au" vs "o"
the former sounds more like /凹:/ , as also in "dog, boy, oil"
: f- u( L2 ?* p$ i; f% Y, g" U. H0 _ the latter is close to"啊", as in "hot, non, on, not, cotton......"
4 D4 y2 a- S" o8 |2 v) O# A* Tbut when o+r, it just sounds like  /凹:儿/

suvescape

hot, non, on ,not, cotton, 原本也应该是 dog 中的/凹:/ ; 但是美国人喜欢变音(或叫做重读),就成了"啊"
这是我的理解

珠圆玉润

这个星期没收到 通知。是不是课程取消了。也没收到一封信。大家还去上课吗。谢谢

suvescape

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竹帘儿

美音中到底有没有长元英 /凹:/
如:
" }6 t; S* C6 Y) w5 x; P# Zcaught, lawn, pawn 的/凹:/在美音中全部读为/凹/;
3 u' X% ^$ ~5 k9 j美音中: talk, lawn, pawn, 和 hot, non, 的元音居然都是一样的?

4 D8 d8 s2 d7 k6 x/ z& T8 {看一书惊讶的发现?
0 ~9 l& f% k! n1 O. C1 B7 O" j; d
难道和中国南方人一样,十,四不分? ...
- _, P! J, i" x1 m9 csuvescape 发表于 2010-10-15 22:30

! D) M# ?3 U$ Z8 ]5 ?" C不太明白你这个帖子的意思。据我所知 talk lawn pawn 跟hot cotton stop 的元音不一样。
你为何说看 american accent trainning得出这个结论呢?(我没看过这本书）

suvescape

我知道不一样,但是这本书写成一样了. 奇怪的很

xwj2010

有的。

竹声

Not only does American Accent Training have such comment, other pronunciation books also suggest learners to treat these two as the same. The difference is more pronounced in British English, but one may be safe to ignore it when learning a North American accent, as most areas treat them almost the same. In fact, in our August 2010 accent reduction class, I taught the students to treat these two vowel sounds as the same, making it easier for our students.