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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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+ B* @- B; ?* G0 Y. |  k0 s$ jBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane- w- }3 i/ U2 ?/ s: L
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"8 u- z1 k- |' c7 G
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).' `+ V; o( |6 i) R% p' O, r* A
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:; X7 b& A$ `) g: @
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
. P, l6 r& M3 G! G# y她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:  Z: ~* N+ J7 e& U

& K3 o% Z1 ^+ V2 ~# \4 B* L7 M& |' VAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
/ N- n$ ~& @3 V3 I3 R* g. E4 ]She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
* l) ^# k9 z$ f4 g. {but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,( F  G# K' Z5 q* x9 P0 k) k
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.' w4 [6 s8 f: v# K8 {, O  e
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.5 u/ c) ~) y9 L5 f( s4 T# o+ @
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
4 c4 N- Y: B* c5 w- Rif we demand He leave us alone?": D# Q# _0 g% T" N$ Z& y! v
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;9 E! c) j" d5 d' m( G) d
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,: B/ [5 f# ^. _, V6 n( N( e( e
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。0 ^( Z1 g2 }0 ^- V6 }" C
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。1 c& @7 j+ r- b( y
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
5 j) `4 ~# M6 b% I5 F' {7 c1 Q) B; y又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』9 _4 a3 a5 o0 P0 Q6 Y& q5 c
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
5 v" t; d' n8 Z  O! L5 U. P7 }I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
; @+ x6 u2 W0 wher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
+ P/ x4 T- B, c2 K3 j3 U' L  g# |6 {schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in+ P9 b3 ~7 \: y4 @& `
school...
% G1 A0 K! J# i- d, B& uthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,/ `) d" I8 U' i6 ?2 b
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
- e6 W% x( V& @- C看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,8 F2 ?+ c3 @/ v; r+ P4 ?6 D* G
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
+ R) E# W# o3 [$ m! t+ G7 `(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
& I- _* F3 G9 w最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
0 Z: J0 |9 A  D( A1 ?* x! u# M/ v要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。* j7 Y& g# L9 ]2 p. Q' c5 q
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" _1 ~+ i9 u9 N# K5 nThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children; z' x$ r6 k: P8 h% U
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
% l+ o0 l( g' y& T% Qand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
5 T! q$ q+ D7 Y* A1 B% ysuicide)5 z" H. w; J4 ]" P# ^
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.! @3 B5 b/ ]/ ?. d: N
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
: X# ^6 h- m4 Z+ s6 i- x3 Y0 y( E我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,% N- ]* V) B4 p$ ?. w+ ?5 w6 Q# k
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊2 K5 k5 y% U& e( j: C  ~
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our% ^1 v& {  x) f# o7 w) ^
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member8 M1 N' A+ ]. E+ b: f  |  y% e8 }
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave; r9 o5 W& a$ R9 L5 S
because we don 't want any bad publicity,! f$ J+ b9 t3 ]& n5 I' E
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
4 k7 u; y9 r3 o$ sbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
2 u( i/ m! R, u/ X. \7 Yetc.). And we said OK.7 K+ p3 }8 k7 t% M: E; P
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
0 ], [9 q* j6 _5 a' q7 l( i. N老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
) s  M9 a# E( ^0 [- A教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
( J% @2 }# \2 q! O6 t; k; D7 P更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),* ?1 S7 ~9 G- N: ]4 O1 Q
而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,# F* A/ {- @) ~& `' I, }7 F
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
- Z% a; a! g7 X' d& S2 v" HThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys. p' x4 |# k7 u
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms- x# @5 S9 B! q) ~
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
1 g& d7 L' k/ G- h* l+ F0 oand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
  q- C) Q1 |" O# i- g# xsaid OK.8 t- e8 k* g9 U2 \0 ~' y; \
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,/ K$ D- y8 Y8 p$ M7 S0 |, S, R
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
& K6 T$ z' {( a# u. A6 y: M; b然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
  P% \1 [2 M+ J' k$ Q3 B他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
5 Z* O7 d6 t; y5 j' ~好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道' ?, Q% \: k0 G0 w! Z, ]+ w
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。: _. y' \$ X# e: H& O/ ^$ v! o% {

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. t( Y, L8 z4 M# v( D4 U  l4 gThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter6 H9 u) \$ b7 k: l
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,  @; P) E5 @  _: a
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,) m: ?! `/ h# y$ M0 h
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.( V) U8 F: C& e& o% p
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
* l5 ^8 f, D4 E只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,: @( C7 u) y& S0 w2 O
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >7 i3 T. i7 a: J# M
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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) r# S) m& F" b& {2 T  yThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women; L; q" o* y" z; K
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
# q5 ]9 p' _# Jof the female body. And we said OK.7 _$ a5 E" y/ G- Z! w9 G- s/ ^! Y9 i
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
$ K& \3 g3 `- a) e% `* r稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。5 W; Y4 G9 p; c& ]0 f
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
; |6 x4 |2 y* m/ e5 d, X; L6 ]. u6 X6 Hpublished pictures of nude children and then further again
2 j% i! G# }2 _) {: hby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,) b4 X2 w) i' Z, g2 L
they're entitled to free speech.) F; g2 S+ l# {/ T) `: H
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,4 `- d4 W# ]* ?) x
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,- ~, }' A. w  e9 j+ ]( ^$ p9 a
他們這樣做是言論自由。1 W$ V; D- a# D$ N0 @" q
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& H0 l" G! p4 y- L9 ^Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies9 f5 u7 ^0 M+ `' u
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music) D: X; h6 \" ?6 m5 G# x
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
* u1 X, F  r0 H6 Q$ MAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,: n- k5 }: q2 D. T
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
  ^% c* C' W2 c0 D- h9 _  [然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、2 Q" k" u; d& F8 O, Z
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、  T/ t0 S9 W' _! ~0 g' g3 y& v+ K
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:8 h. N) q) A/ v5 R# {
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,  _5 q# h4 o* ?+ n7 Z
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them4 m  ], U: O' \. ^6 H) y
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
1 g, M# h' H* E. U2 z* b, aif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
/ L1 w/ u1 p$ ^) T- ~: PI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
( i. o/ F" d8 [4 N; z如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
( ?1 H3 z" E. |& t3 @為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?3 }4 I' ]% M8 U6 ^4 p
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?3 p4 w0 }; b' u  o# S
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。( D& P2 f; R& T1 i: ?* ~- s/ q
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder, T  V+ p8 Q2 z3 v* |1 J$ v+ G
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers; Q& @" H4 r# b% b! j
say, but question what the Bible says.$ k* @" Q- N( P) n
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
" x' c- D9 p9 r5 k: B* `8 c實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。- `' o) b0 j/ Q

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$ ~7 b4 W- r9 i/ l* F& mFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like: K; b" }. m6 i! O$ n
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,4 X5 W: A6 n4 w$ L7 X! s
people think twice about sharing.6 A5 p3 g) }( u' d
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
  ~* k! Z, C; ]/ ?% ^# F  |8 k但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
( Z6 k& t5 o9 ?/ s$ @8 T3 I! E人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。) o! [0 T! c, c, d0 G( F5 M' F
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely5 _5 H3 I" L4 F7 p
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
( @2 P$ |7 Q) _. a* C1 c! ]0 Q3 din the school and workplace.% T! c/ s' {- Q2 [7 D
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章" h  ^2 p& S& _: K
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;$ T, ~3 v) k/ G6 L3 u! `  g
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。) ^5 D) @; s' Q& t9 M

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Are you laughing?
$ }" {, J$ H. [4 F你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it5 b1 f( Q, E6 s4 z! ^2 Y' x7 V
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,  x# T$ s% E( K' m* E: d
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
$ E: D8 M, E+ k- EFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us* l' E6 ^" G* d$ M1 d8 c& s$ q
than what God thinks of us.5 l- R& K  f0 }/ x0 b, T% V
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,( D. I$ x1 v) B* Y# \
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
; {3 F/ ~3 N9 G或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
& A6 ^, G6 S- n& J" s, A" C可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,6 I( p0 I( X/ g( n
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...7 S2 i+ W' ?$ O4 u
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
7 v' j' Q$ B7 _sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
: J. C& F0 f3 ^1 p把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
' H( h' |- L1 M: H: d4 |若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,# I4 q9 t% E# N0 y- u6 I
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
7 a# u! L1 N1 ~3 G0 j3 q你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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/ |" m  p2 l7 L上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。1 p* Y( o7 c( m$ f8 y: g. [/ G
  May God bless you!
大型搬家
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
$ c0 H% l; x# p( G" O有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。% I- ]" i7 Z9 B5 s6 U+ V
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了' S  f6 N" D. K: Q: C" R9 R1 [! x

2 _/ N# A2 F2 M( T# B( ?所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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+ ^8 d3 I0 m* L: r  y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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