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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane! p% r, ]" {0 a1 v' w
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"* B7 a  G1 ~- y6 n: O2 y8 Z) l
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
$ Z+ m4 k$ J: X! n葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
6 v  Y+ y" \3 C  }6 c上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?/ ?  E+ k" J1 A, J1 t
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.* b( q$ n9 b* k" B
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
! R/ q& d! G: m+ {. d6 mbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,) B4 X- l, F+ N5 U/ P' u: v8 {1 n
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
, v# G5 p5 j/ |, M1 ~And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
# l; @, w* j# `+ RHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection" w- A6 M+ g. j( `9 p. d" h
if we demand He leave us alone?"
! e% @# t5 ]4 m7 H' s. n( n- A8 [『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
  j" b7 u* O; p+ Q$ P' M只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,2 [# A* [0 R2 R9 C
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
) e& g) [. C: m, |  q3 Q上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
/ ]5 ?/ e0 z$ @, k0 `7 Z2 Q% O, |我們既然強令祂遠離我們,8 f% Z( S" z# V
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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" H2 _% ~9 ~# u+ aIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.6 E) |* Y2 k& Z) [; a$ z
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
! g4 \/ L- }) G+ n3 \5 Qher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our5 ?6 c1 H' L$ q* ]/ ^& X* D( v
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in3 [9 R9 P3 D8 T; ~4 Y
school...1 A# X3 _6 V* i( H! {. K& L
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
/ O* D6 x3 p8 g0 Y3 D0 Fand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.: Q2 H  @( a8 q
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
. a6 z1 t) ?5 z* _) F: P4 R我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
7 t- y% _, q' W2 H8 d6 A- _(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
! n% x6 [/ S0 Z) P最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
, {2 k( m( _+ k要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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" k2 D+ G5 f. H# W: s5 ?Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children6 t$ a  }; m& Z1 p' G" L5 k
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
6 o* _! S% G; |! Q' R- Sand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed" u& T/ }$ m0 k$ u2 q
suicide)0 e8 z& |7 [5 ?" q+ o
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.( [4 R4 ]& L" `" l- G" ~
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
) q% {& B9 h+ b3 Y我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
' L. G" J2 W  f5 e* I以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊! N0 _6 `6 Y5 u! H2 J# B9 U) R
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
; ]5 R7 m8 `% p) n/ }children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member& ~" L8 c1 C3 [" |; ^, ^
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
$ [: \% B, `. ?# F1 ?because we don 't want any bad publicity,8 R% H& w1 ^9 j5 Q" H
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference6 n2 B- n" n7 T2 u% j% Z
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,! \+ T$ P  @, [; }) X" v0 ^4 A" o
etc.). And we said OK.. S5 O- f$ Y8 ^0 [9 u
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,) s  W0 R6 V- |7 p# ?
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,: a) G0 N% e( ^; C+ ~5 `$ _
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
0 }4 R, J* D3 U. |更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
. p* I  a8 f9 ^" c1 |( o而大家同意了。5 l. \/ S7 V3 L8 }6 q4 o

& M6 W9 F! p0 w6 \' O7 }7 d0 nThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
5 v. h6 e$ S# p7 I& @$ y% C. `and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.6 G. `/ I1 M; _4 h" o9 s
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
) e0 Q: i! [& Q" ^and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
: c! R7 I# |2 [4 Bthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,) K/ f6 p5 _7 r' }
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we: }. z% y, T- f5 v5 I3 R. S- C" n+ Z
said OK.
$ K1 }) y& _( h1 B然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,& A" ?$ t2 G8 Q  d9 r' s
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
! H8 t: w- J# ]3 [2 e然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
% t8 j; E; B5 y4 d3 l2 m0 }他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
- g* a6 Z& I  F好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道: [& I4 t8 c" W# N) S& Q2 z9 X
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。/ X( l, ^4 a8 l

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* G" ~( }. Z4 s! ?$ HThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter5 c3 ^7 k! ]9 C1 o& z
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,1 Z, `. H  F- E; U
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
2 `5 A: ^& g9 v$ e! _: H7 T$ pdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
- @; C- A9 x1 C! d; g+ N( B然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,9 R, G, h2 B+ O; K0 T. o
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
5 D# A  m$ y. Y0 d, x9 q任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >' g' }% v. z1 h. O7 g
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women: I9 }/ J* x; v" f5 Y
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty/ B" G. |" q$ G/ ?$ d( Z( z
of the female body. And we said OK.# N9 R9 x' R0 W6 ?/ C
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,0 d! l. W( \$ C/ Y
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。1 q$ E5 Z) l8 h( X" Z/ r8 W  V
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5 B7 q! k! N5 x# V, ~And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
, E" r4 F9 T: Q* k7 ]1 ipublished pictures of nude children and then further again0 w- G5 H* w+ h- T! J3 e: a" x. c
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
! v& A6 d- g, n8 wthey're entitled to free speech.
* G* i8 _0 _/ Z9 Y然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
% U5 h2 _) t$ X5 r; Q0 ^! C甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
6 @4 ~1 X0 G! l6 A; L% j2 z: h他們這樣做是言論自由。) ^1 T3 k3 k9 n! m

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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies" t- r2 i! T4 ], q& F3 ?9 [
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
* c. J9 `/ Y' n) W5 i. T4 s8 c4 Qthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
9 y* W; `1 D, m1 Z  G! |% CAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
& _% V* O0 T# g2 {nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
: k2 C( c9 Y3 |- D, x. L# r然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、. e) B5 K" c5 ]4 ?
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、, A4 D7 l+ f: A4 S
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
, n) _- ^- O& Z! O那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
" S5 d  [1 ]6 }  b6 C2 c8 Z4 Dwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them3 w/ Y' G7 E" U1 O0 u- m
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
7 Q/ h# h% K* k3 @1 b7 xif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
9 j1 k1 n) k1 E7 z0 A/ P9 N  uI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."- Y  i+ j8 ~/ G; g
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
8 f# M+ n) p# a( Y為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?! F$ a$ d) j5 v: e5 C9 Y8 p& O
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
! u' w( N, c* V& V9 w3 ~. N( u假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
" z4 @- M7 m5 g5 Q6 }我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。6 t8 ^9 d, b' C  R: j) l/ i7 B3 r( T
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
% A9 h1 w6 m6 ?, ^: d9 K& Ywhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
1 y" g+ ~: ]& q0 J0 E, ]0 m; Vsay, but question what the Bible says., W+ ^$ s* t3 H5 O* z- d5 D
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。9 _% A+ i. ~) n0 `3 }, ]# F9 p7 U
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。! s! q2 g" L' q! }, X3 j$ C

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1 l3 M% S$ k$ fFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like2 l+ O- s6 Y3 _2 I, @# j
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,1 d1 P; X3 L2 e6 x' y
people think twice about sharing.
; J) ?2 [# Z3 Y實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
! T: `6 V5 n' F但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,$ R  G0 D2 D8 T0 E& q
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。7 |1 y" o9 m7 ^* \. n7 h
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely) d) C. x- Y+ R2 ?0 p( w. L/ b0 D
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
$ V! p- P1 u4 X2 m: ?% Q$ h' P4 Vin the school and workplace.# Z  o7 L0 y  o0 y% b: }
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
5 @! k( g, q0 h# @! S1 ?7 r透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;; M  i. x2 \/ h6 {, c
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?
1 G# h2 l: A: x8 G2 \你笑了嗎?% i8 J6 l( g1 b+ h; O, k. i

* q7 U$ U, Y* p/ _' SFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it# q# M: c! Y& o) v& ?( J
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,1 d0 |  A/ Q9 I! R. J! o9 O  B
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
! h3 T9 ]6 V7 \7 j' x% A) kFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
% k' O" ~1 ^5 h6 {8 @/ ]than what God thinks of us.# A4 W+ ]8 _# N1 @  _' S
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,8 D- G, i$ u' M$ F+ V
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,, l1 w- d( D; U+ n+ g
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。, u, j5 }6 l. `+ E+ k
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
5 B! v; a2 Y/ z$ [而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
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sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
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若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
2 y" N& v+ c& z: e5 R1 ~% P2 r+ o但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,& i2 X% @4 p' D: t; ~
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.) s: P& m( T; M8 c
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+ t  W4 r4 T" @6 K% b2 y6 U上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
# }$ Z: Y: @# I9 N$ D3 w  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
. h# M0 V+ O+ h) }) _8 s5 @有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。5 @. q; M" g6 {$ F
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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