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Is there a house bubble in Edmonton?

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发表于 2007-1-13 10:30 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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How to figure a home's fundamental value
$ Q. s: ?. c/ e$ _; ^4 k$ ]$ O$ dLeamer says he can tell because homes, just like stocks, have a price-to-earnings ratio (P/E) that he believes determines their fundamental value. The “earnings” part of the ratio consists of the annual rent the house could command. Homebuyers can compare current P/Es with historical levels, Leamer says, to get some idea of whether houses in their cities are becoming overvalued.
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+ m" Z8 B8 i4 q3 VNot everyone buys the idea that P/Es dictate value. But investors who completely ignore P/Es do so at their peril, as many have learned in recent years. Leamer, who heads the prestigious Anderson Forecast at the University of California in Los Angeles, points out that the P/E for the Standard & Poor’s 500, a key stock benchmark, was nearly double its previous historical high when the stock market bubble burst in 2000. When home P/Es peaked in California, Boston, Dallas and other markets in the mid-1980s, devastating real estate recessions followed.
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Leamer didn’t invent the concept of P/Es for homes. But his willingness to proclaim bubbles in several of the nation’s hottest markets has brought him lots of attention recently.
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; J8 O$ N+ F" G$ P8 `To calculate P/Es for entire cities, Leamer divided the median home price in each by the annual rent for a two-bedroom unit in each city -- and looked at P/Es each year since 1988. Here’s what he found:
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+ f5 r4 g) _6 z$ J9 }" F1 xIn Boston, the residential real estate market’s P/E recently topped 30 -- compared with just under 20 in 1988." q" H; T/ Q! S

+ W9 U8 E; h6 m5 U# X! RSan Francisco’s previous peak of 25.6 in 1989 has been eclipsed, with the P/E currently at just over 27.
7 H+ N9 f- z0 `7 i/ M' ?San Diego’s current P/E is nearly 30, compared with a 1989 high of 23.4.( G& q$ E* d7 \4 C+ B" O
New York, by contrast, is actually well below previous peaks. The area’s current 22.5 P/E is above its recent nadir of 17.6 in 1993, but down from 28.6 in 1988.1 V7 i1 k0 v' [
You don’t have to know exact P/Es, however, to spot signs of trouble, Leamer says. Any time there’s a disconnect between prices and the underlying value of homes, as measured by their market rents, there’s the potential for a bubble. ) O/ d' e) e; n- \/ H5 s8 k( F

9 Q# Z5 @) m1 |- s; ZIf home prices are rising much faster than rents, as is true in Los Angeles, that’s a strong indication a bubble is forming.
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2 X0 n) ~7 {8 r' a) G4 {If home prices are rising while average rents are falling -- which is the situation in San Francisco -- the bubble is pretty much unmistakable.
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Avg. 1988-2000 2001
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6 t# o+ j& y( ?  D! Z6 iSan Diego  22.8 29.7
, V5 W% Z8 _4 u. V& R4 l- e7 @3 Y0 xSan Francisco  23.8 27.2 6 N: V, v, F" g7 _7 T
Los Angeles  21.3 25.6 # q1 V7 g- R; Z6 n. u- j
Seattle  20.4 25 " H+ r9 ?! d) w" ^7 q% I$ U
Denver  17.7 23.7 ; I" x  V% P; z' o: h8 T& D
New York  21.2 22.5 & z3 W  _  E3 A5 X! x3 r, I/ H
Chicago  17.2 20.8
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It's difficult to compare P/Es from one city with those from another. P/Es in Atlantic City, N.J., have wavered between 17.3 and 11.6 since 1988; in San Diego, P/Es have not dropped below 20. But you can look on the P/E as a measure of risk -- that is, the higher the P/E is above its average level, the greater the risk, no matter where you live.
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! e$ H/ g( U$ x9 e  L' [From: http://moneycentral.msn.com/cont ... ingguide/P37631.asp
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发表于 2007-1-13 12:43 | 显示全部楼层
Who has the P/E for Edmonton for the last 20 years, please post it here.  q* Y5 E& w5 }. ]$ {
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it would be a good reference.
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thanks
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发表于 2007-1-14 16:40 | 显示全部楼层
20% buble at least. And it can take 3-5 years to digest the bubble if not burst.
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7 Z' A+ A1 ]& N[ 本帖最后由 醉酒当歌 于 2007-1-14 16:41 编辑 ]
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