德国奔驰，宝马，奥迪，在各位心目中的排名

shark27

很遗憾gtr多数变速箱问题不在保修范围以内，nissan的理由是customer abusing.不用lunch control的话，也许损坏变速箱的几率要低一些，可以gtr没了lunch control的话就没什么fun可言了。

跟你说了ifa是5.0 v10，起价35万us

HRU

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LF-A  在中国售价588万， （进口关税25%已经包含在588万售价中）

最终上牌价格车价达到1146万元！（如果不明白综合税率计算，请参考中国税务培训资料。每次看税率都肝颤！）

日本人抢钱啦！！！

网上美国人讨论普遍认为价格在375k-400K美刀。 怪不得国内代理商都疯了似的抢25个配额，一辆车就是40万美元的利润啊！
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命好地话从美国私下进口一辆拉拉风，摆在店里镇店用！LF-A卖掉一部的话 2.4375x400,000 US dollars （约660万上牌价格）对比中国售价，利润太诱人了！
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( E7 z) }9 ^0 ]6 G$ @) V. p( Y- b顺便更正一下，发动机排量仅仅4.8升 10缸， 发动机前中置，全车碳纤维及其它高强度材料编织，日本人自称研究了十年，耗资如何巨大，每量车都是赔钱卖，我都要笑了，这和电力公司说我们是亏损的如出一辙！
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- ^) ^* z( ~4 x不过，这个小钢炮据说在柏林赛道每圈都比911Turbo 和 GTR 快0.02秒-0.03秒，仅次于enzo 和 veron
（资料来自youtube LF-A 主题）在车身伪装下达到的成绩，如果原形毕露，可能成绩更好（不知道气动布局是否能很大地影响成绩）

, M9 W: v3 [% C+ j0 u( m参考： 3.0-4.0 进口车综合税率 0.95                          到岸价格 x（1+ 综和税率）=上牌价
  D( X. X9 Z& a" \( ^; C* P; }' e       4.0-以上进口车综合税率1.4375（LF-A 级别适用 其中消费税 40%  增值税17% 关税25%）

小黄

I heard Toyota is only going to lease it.

HRU

You mean the Lexus LF-A?

4 `$ d8 V1 s7 N  B8 JIf it is only for lease in 2011-12, maybe Lexus really doesn't want to make profits. They want to prove "YES, WE CAN?" 屠户要吃斋了！

HRU

Shark's idea about GTR might be the case.
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4 i, s) l% _7 |8 h; f- mNissan is bitterly fighting his diehard fans about this issue.

5 E% `: R" ~9 z9 R9 w2 n8 Jif the launch control (by the way not "lunch control"-a driver is lucky enough doesn't have to keep diet for protecting transmission )
doesn't hold the punishing use of the owner, why introduce it?

7 P" J" @: C* y$ \/ P) E6 T' dToo bad GTR won't have a launch control, therefor the myth of 0-100 will go away....

shark27

LF-A  在中国售价588万， （进口关税25%已经包含在588万售价中）
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- R# S0 F5 m7 H8 {0 q最终上牌价格车价达到1146万元！（如果不明白综合税率计算，请参考中国税务培训资料。每次看税率都肝颤！）

日本人抢钱啦！！！
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' Y& X8 l6 `2 j, }2 c% EHRU 发表于 2009-12-21 13:50

- \! d2 T" X% Oprototype 一般都会比retail跑的好，实际怎么样，就等到2012年再看分晓了

shark27

Shark's idea about GTR might be the case.
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5 o; ?2 R" s( D4 C) |Nissan is bitterly fighting his diehard fans about this issue.
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/ [- u/ B/ F* e! q- d0 Q# ]" }if the launch control (by the way not "lunch control"-a driver is lucky enough doesn't  ...
! f+ ^! W& F, L/ WHRU 发表于 2009-12-21 14:09

thanks mr yu, it always a pleasure to discuss with you.

小黄

You mean the Lexus LF-A?
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) F2 j0 ?) t5 hIf it is only for lease in 2011-12, maybe Lexus really doesn't want to make profits. They want to prove "YES, WE CAN?" 屠户要吃斋了！
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It's only a rumor at this moment. I guess Toyota is still trying to figure out the best pricing plan. It's not really easy, even though money is not the first priority.

1) If they price it too low, there will be a problem of allocation.
# [$ d$ s9 Y% j1 f. `( b2) If they price it too high, then buyers may be disappointed if it doesn't measure up to Enzo and the likes.

highbury

大哥们，小弟我完全看不懂呀！

特北京

看了TopGear对LFA的介绍，很赞同他们的结论——这就是一个工程师们的湿梦。

杀手比尔

请教一下HRU，为什么要把车从美国开到加拿大再发国内啊，从美国直接发不是更方便么？

特北京

那他就没的赚了呀！