德国奔驰，宝马，奥迪，在各位心目中的排名

shark27

很遗憾gtr多数变速箱问题不在保修范围以内，nissan的理由是customer abusing.不用lunch control的话，也许损坏变速箱的几率要低一些，可以gtr没了lunch control的话就没什么fun可言了。
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HRU

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LF-A  在中国售价588万， （进口关税25%已经包含在588万售价中）
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5 d' _( z! Y; e最终上牌价格车价达到1146万元！（如果不明白综合税率计算，请参考中国税务培训资料。每次看税率都肝颤！）

0 B( n, W: Y$ r" f! u日本人抢钱啦！！！

" \6 B$ f  C: R& a5 `网上美国人讨论普遍认为价格在375k-400K美刀。 怪不得国内代理商都疯了似的抢25个配额，一辆车就是40万美元的利润啊！
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$ `. X5 d/ t7 ?  i5 A$ r6 G命好地话从美国私下进口一辆拉拉风，摆在店里镇店用！LF-A卖掉一部的话 2.4375x400,000 US dollars （约660万上牌价格）对比中国售价，利润太诱人了！

( W6 f) @) Q5 D% D9 |顺便更正一下，发动机排量仅仅4.8升 10缸， 发动机前中置，全车碳纤维及其它高强度材料编织，日本人自称研究了十年，耗资如何巨大，每量车都是赔钱卖，我都要笑了，这和电力公司说我们是亏损的如出一辙！

不过，这个小钢炮据说在柏林赛道每圈都比911Turbo 和 GTR 快0.02秒-0.03秒，仅次于enzo 和 veron
（资料来自youtube LF-A 主题）在车身伪装下达到的成绩，如果原形毕露，可能成绩更好（不知道气动布局是否能很大地影响成绩）
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参考： 3.0-4.0 进口车综合税率 0.95                          到岸价格 x（1+ 综和税率）=上牌价
8 y- |- D/ g3 E. O# F; |       4.0-以上进口车综合税率1.4375（LF-A 级别适用 其中消费税 40%  增值税17% 关税25%）

小黄

I heard Toyota is only going to lease it.

HRU

You mean the Lexus LF-A?
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If it is only for lease in 2011-12, maybe Lexus really doesn't want to make profits. They want to prove "YES, WE CAN?" 屠户要吃斋了！

HRU

Shark's idea about GTR might be the case.
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. `% L* e3 I) H6 X  u- V# ]Nissan is bitterly fighting his diehard fans about this issue.

) S$ B% Y- \% kif the launch control (by the way not "lunch control"-a driver is lucky enough doesn't have to keep diet for protecting transmission )
! K6 J. I- b" _' H* l& ]0 odoesn't hold the punishing use of the owner, why introduce it?

Too bad GTR won't have a launch control, therefor the myth of 0-100 will go away....

shark27

LF-A  在中国售价588万， （进口关税25%已经包含在588万售价中）
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% J+ @+ j2 l7 Q- B2 V最终上牌价格车价达到1146万元！（如果不明白综合税率计算，请参考中国税务培训资料。每次看税率都肝颤！）
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日本人抢钱啦！！！
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网上美国人 ...
HRU 发表于 2009-12-21 13:50

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shark27

Shark's idea about GTR might be the case.

Nissan is bitterly fighting his diehard fans about this issue.
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HRU 发表于 2009-12-21 14:09

' `! L7 I/ d7 r/ kthanks mr yu, it always a pleasure to discuss with you.

小黄

You mean the Lexus LF-A?
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If it is only for lease in 2011-12, maybe Lexus really doesn't want to make profits. They want to prove "YES, WE CAN?" 屠户要吃斋了！
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It's only a rumor at this moment. I guess Toyota is still trying to figure out the best pricing plan. It's not really easy, even though money is not the first priority.
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1) If they price it too low, there will be a problem of allocation.
" }' f9 c) u! g: ]: X9 |" U2) If they price it too high, then buyers may be disappointed if it doesn't measure up to Enzo and the likes.

highbury

大哥们，小弟我完全看不懂呀！

特北京

看了TopGear对LFA的介绍，很赞同他们的结论——这就是一个工程师们的湿梦。

杀手比尔

请教一下HRU，为什么要把车从美国开到加拿大再发国内啊，从美国直接发不是更方便么？

特北京

那他就没的赚了呀！