說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
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赞同！

冷眼看世界

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
0 H" L; f  p2 g4 ^) ]/ S, N楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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let's wait,  see and wish you a good luck~

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酸葡萄

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
5 a5 K3 M* R4 v% {. J3 X# s楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

  O& a( q  X# N; d. r+ k4 J四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人

悦耳的鸟

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan

仁者见仁，智者见智。 北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

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2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars
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      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm
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2 I% c4 S# G# Z9 L3)   Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness
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      http://www.iihs.org/
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      http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
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yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."


  `3 r5 J) o! W, M- I. [  Q" c就我的经验， 各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜， 便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表

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% ~' L5 B  a0 ?0 w# q! \9 d3 o还有一项就是：
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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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& `9 h' O' |+ ~$ M" \0 \不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
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Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE & g3 x; }7 M7 Y, ]8 D# c3 h	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE " r; w' n! r9 T
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX ! C% h' |3 |( w1 U
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 Z  n( s% U5 u- I  q; z	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 9 _" c8 S  o$ n  ^; S	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid	• 1996 Toyota Corolla & v* [' S6 @1 Z- U9 f, X
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 L' k: B8 M1 k: n	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE   |, v( Q4 D% z: ^	• 1996 Toyota T-100 9 w8 a$ @) d+ Q) t- y
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 1 C1 U$ n3 N/ h0 W/ D3 i+ J( ~: _+ o	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 P' u  r: m, c; q* ]' w& A4 r% m
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE : R$ ^, W! W" l6 v  d+ x( m	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 6 o2 \) E' f! U; X% n
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' @' l+ X" E2 F	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 8 A3 k/ ~# X1 o
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 1 w; Z+ l9 X! }! h0 v+ ]' @. r	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS ; N2 y9 J5 k# R! N2 F	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma : {; _) a& n  D; Y4 C# S
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL # f. s0 y6 t$ W' `' u& y" ^: y	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner
• 2006 Toyota Prius ) W- c: }3 C& {, j	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry + O5 K: V! j  g2 N2 G! L! |9 r	• 1995 Toyota Pickup - x. o' }9 [  ]- d/ b
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring ) @  P( o' B# R4 R; H  m9 Z	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma - [( ?- F: G7 ^) v$ r9 y5 Y	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 5 \# ]9 U; P) l# n	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton ! c0 E& p3 }- G7 W8 _& s
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 3 x4 O0 j/ b! P' r( l# C	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; ^+ K/ t" D- R9 x" }4 ?" Z9 V
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ) e+ g' T, |3 o
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 4 B' N0 B, @% d	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited : |' ^5 E4 i, U' B: v	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE   O) W# H! V9 g& C6 @! Y6 \/ v	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 6 m( W' W! k$ ~' Q8 P+ w0 {2 Z6 m
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS $ C+ {' l6 a1 [, g	• 1995 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 1 O+ L, x# O7 |" @) s4 M  K+ B	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1995 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited , H( L1 K1 Y+ ?; y	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 3 }6 @9 R' z$ K8 X) s
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 4 Z" ~9 k$ s- D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 " s& B. u, ]- ~9 Q& o  h3 E4 M" b
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma	• 1994 Toyota Pickup
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S 4 r  C6 e2 l- o  X	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 8 X; g) g2 R1 h/ T5 f	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 2 \8 ?3 `4 }2 w/ b% [
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 * W* l5 {- F: o. `, J
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 W0 M# ^! m# b  X, U2 ]4 X4 r: g0 A6 w
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 8 A1 h& V& C2 ^- G- z4 L4 |
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 : Z4 k& D6 G1 [	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS 9 `  w  n* a1 `& f	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / Z9 y& w( U. v, V% o
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE + m" M* T/ {3 K' |) X. o
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 8 t' R9 O5 V7 r	• 1994 Toyota Corolla 2 p$ Y  ^- o1 d- p. V+ V
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton : j, g1 B# t9 H
• 2005 Toyota Highlander	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE $ t5 r. s1 a, s* a6 h9 q" I
• 2005 Toyota Prius 1 |7 v$ i: H# `( `3 w, A6 t6 G	• 1993 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton ; U0 w# s% ?7 Q# [. Y
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . T+ G! I4 [" J( {& L
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX ) Z7 g4 b# q9 w4 F7 W5 c' \
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 8 ?* \1 R7 N6 v: P3 `	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX / D/ h' r. a9 R6 o) t4 i$ X
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE ( C8 p1 B9 K2 A. W0 c" x	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE ( k0 G% K$ g' u$ e	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE & \/ g) g$ t, k2 E4 `7 X
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 3 m8 ?; d9 E9 m& E, s4 ]6 y; o
• 2004 Toyota Prius	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE ! A! P$ w% _- D  I& V
• 2004 Toyota Tundra . n; B$ J" ]% {* k, }	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 2 u( n# J: `1 |7 |7 @3 G5 y& @
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 5 T' H; I: k6 {	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! e8 G* T8 z- c5 i5 f
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited % P2 [  y; E' j) Q	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE ! |8 b3 t$ T- ^9 [: `2 o
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE * Z6 O! @/ ]/ \9 }$ T) k	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac   J# X: E3 i1 V8 }* j, _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 1 L) k. f/ D. @. ^	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2004 Toyota Highlander	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ) r: L2 `, Q/ U6 i8 k+ g: T	• 1992 Toyota Corolla
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota MR2 : W- ]3 p" _* u: z
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! K' b* Y! L7 o. d2 m, f, e$ _0 Q& L" X	• 1992 Toyota Pickup
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 2 ^3 m, e; `' z; S& D. b	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX ! b4 B: u* F9 a, t+ A+ ^  ?; o
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' x) K: I2 l1 A( i. T	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 k! y% P7 T# X/ T
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S # V6 r- j4 j' q; P# P	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 6 \# \( G+ W; v& @, Z
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited + h$ ]( }& C' A! P9 c# W; p7 H  Z- E	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ! |' B4 U" i* d" a* S
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 p: C  g) R1 @! G7 T	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 " A6 g7 V1 i/ E+ g2 R4 U
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT . Z5 A& h9 M3 I) w" d0 _	• 1991 Toyota Camry
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE $ q* I4 [# P3 ^! ~' D	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Highlander	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 5 f. H/ R3 C# l# a+ R8 ~
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX " T& S- P. o+ x; i
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ( g4 Z& J3 }0 }: }8 i	• 1991 Toyota MR2 9 p% \: R+ N2 t6 U
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 6 J$ J: w- l  S: Q$ @. H, x	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX   m2 r' e4 Y, D/ L" ]
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 8 b5 P9 D9 B3 L' M. A; k	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * \5 f# E" Q/ a9 v9 \: T: i	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 5 ?# i+ v/ d* j. l7 p3 K	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 r$ L, {1 `9 P
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton # |6 n: m, t7 u. [' C
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 P0 c& {* }' C* N, ^4 n6 Z# d) p	• 1990 Toyota Pickup
• 2002 Toyota ECHO	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ! S2 _# Y. o/ {  k7 Y' C
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT : n1 x$ ]2 m* W) I' N( F7 Q: q
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT : X# }( g- Q5 ]6 G$ r: }  I	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 0 ~6 ^) }) y5 J2 U
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1990 Toyota Camry 7 j6 T: C4 V8 d. {
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S , l" L7 J# p: y5 n+ u% w	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST ' Y+ t1 G& m5 b, I* ]9 a" t
• 2002 Toyota Highlander	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX # L3 K2 o  I2 ~, {
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * |) R  P6 z9 \$ U	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 e  k0 Z1 Z2 D* A, @. |' A
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . }/ T8 |" h4 R! I	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser - f5 C' l, a% F& q' q" ^3 j* w
• 2002 Toyota Prius , ~- N" B* R9 r8 _0 K- N	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ! H" \  g8 _/ X# D% y2 C" F( M; L
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & Z% p; a2 s& r1 o5 X  G	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX 1 e$ A1 W2 `* N
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 9 ~; C4 ]! d  u3 Q. O
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE # Y1 v6 a, y9 _  `" _3 X( i	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac " M& W1 @* S- z0 t+ Q( d3 n, X
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma	• 1990 Toyota Tercel " u' V/ {* ^0 h3 B
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ; i( |. R1 m6 s! v	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 5 l% b; S! P5 t, o- E	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 5 [! I( o  V: J- p: r' b
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL $ z4 A2 m. w5 ~8 {, J3 H	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base   c! ?* m7 `6 z: b* r! \
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 1 Q+ f- L7 ~7 E) l
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE . z3 ?+ R" C, H6 w9 J5 R# ?
• 2001 Toyota Prius	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 l; y( _. ^) y; X/ ?
• 2001 Toyota Tundra / A8 V% N- q7 e4 ]( s4 U3 A8 S	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger . `8 c# K8 M( Q" e- }. X
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE % l4 g/ |2 T0 K	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1989 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1989 Toyota Tercel
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 9 n9 l* T) M" n9 T, B6 @	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE ) e$ s1 W: j! v2 n' P) ~6 u	• 1989 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota ECHO	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ! X6 ]: y4 p, h' ?4 h5 ~2 Z- ~	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 7 w+ H8 {% F/ o
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ) V  ?" h" Y% p1 H; l2 u	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + H9 d( _3 o9 @# s+ j	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ   P5 E2 `. E, R% ~* a) m" x
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ' I6 J7 e  c2 _	• 1988 Toyota Camry ! X' _3 b1 }2 |) b
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 4 d. M' Q0 `1 u2 @
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger $ R: r. g4 H$ R* ^( F: ]
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 5 f0 \  Q4 \! W2 }1 u	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; C0 x3 ]3 [9 c- v8 f& A	• 1988 Toyota Van DX
• 2000 Toyota ECHO	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma	• 1988 Toyota Tercel
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT , H! B% N2 d  `. i8 S: T( G	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window 1 f+ `1 g" n% C/ V9 }) I1 m) S
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 $ V8 H4 K% h( g8 t  f2 D* [9 f	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) h: E8 |5 U8 L6 i3 ?* R* }	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 i' X' C6 U8 N4 r
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 2 X8 U/ k0 D4 Z5 T	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 s( F8 m/ E  \5 O2 V+ b	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger + c3 J  A) N" \/ Y; P% I+ M
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 6 h# \/ y8 ^1 K! n5 b1 j" M. P* K	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ( m4 Z  u+ p0 |5 F7 ]5 I! w	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ! s* E+ B2 @# L: G2 W
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 3 K8 {5 U" p  V  O6 ?, g
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX % I% j3 p. D. G8 ~# ~
• 2000 Toyota Tundra	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 3 R. J0 w8 n; f" v. ^8 D8 s" Z! k  b
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS % ?& @0 ^. [0 F# Y	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser # I% V/ u1 F6 v: O
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 3 w4 h: @' r& p! J8 b+ ]" Z3 |$ C1 d	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited % S# N# T, ]2 {9 w- N6 L	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE / Q3 \4 l6 M) n; k3 {4 G
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Van DX
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 7 z5 C# {, f2 V# ^& O, Y5 C
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE   b: i6 z2 B0 |9 V5 v; t9 B2 n	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 9 {4 q. U. F% l	• 1987 Toyota Tercel : @+ Y  Z7 C5 O$ N' _! M$ |
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 6 v4 B2 p; d7 I5 t, m	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX + j# \. |7 z: \( I# T
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 U( N6 u  d0 Y9 s/ W1 s	• 1987 Toyota Van LE * ~3 t& H! R. a3 C; d, D& f1 b
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE ! t% u1 v- G/ T7 L0 B	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX + V7 _$ A( L; W- @* a
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma	• 1987 Toyota Pickup
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1986 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser - t( K+ U! u1 N) k2 m; L' }4 ]
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel ) x: b( j; Y" O" A) _8 Z
• 1999 Toyota RAV4	• 1986 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE " V0 E7 H2 d4 w1 U" F, D	• 1985 Toyota Van & m. }+ a' h: e  |
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1985 Toyota Van LE $ H* \. U# [2 j6 q  W" Z. i
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1985 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE $ d0 x) c0 v2 U6 }: j  `* y- N+ d/ s	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser " V$ [& |, Y) ]/ t3 |
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1984 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Supra 4 f6 `  @- C7 T* n; \. ~
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE ; D' h  x" o- U. C6 U8 S' t) C	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 ^: c" m# x% k' F" V  ?. u
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 0 z4 J5 @  Q: O	• 1984 Toyota Cressida ) h- f. s5 c9 t$ n
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1984 Toyota Van : a1 s' O: M" ~# W
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE : d; ^) N7 x' j
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner	• 1984 Toyota Van LE
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE & x/ T" V. }' a: X+ h  W
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX + z/ C6 h. g# @8 K0 P3 ~! ~	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 - P3 Q/ w% X2 ^$ B, X7 j9 o( U$ t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE # N0 ]7 ]" ]. R# }
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1983 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1983 Toyota Cressida
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 5 D, [6 W2 {5 V- \& h1 C
• 1998 Toyota T-100 7 c' f: X2 |6 ^9 M	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 }! p& D$ o5 N9 z! P" j, t, D
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 s' [7 b# }/ W( Y2 [# ]	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 4 o0 [/ l! F5 A. }2 p7 M6 c! J
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 5 \$ H! G* u0 J; H  ^! @9 Z; q8 b	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ) h7 n* b4 e4 W	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST $ e+ q( Y- _( ?# k8 {- Y; R9 \
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 N% N" _% j9 G( n6 O2 s0 l4 [	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ( l1 G3 k: `1 C2 L, w, U
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 ; b5 c2 f$ s' g% d9 U: N
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 5 M1 t% d3 O7 Q* ?; K0 D	• 1981 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota T-100	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1981 Toyota Cressida - \' D# O1 S1 V
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla ) G) Y- F! x: u' ]& S6 l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe * L: r, |: ?  l" ~
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE 9 g+ i5 _( H% c5 L/ g	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 5 ~9 ~- b  v* i7 W  u% m
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE + a" M3 `$ Y" H5 T* _" i	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 2 ~3 d4 \8 N" F! h; ~7 P7 u
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX ; @1 k0 T% G. l* ]5 O# o	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE % W+ j0 {. A' [, D% E	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 % K) [! p% l9 P7 E; c3 ^
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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  V9 c( K. `+ v6 e如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
4 Y" U$ f7 W6 G9 \* N0 t& G4 u  BToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
0 U& i) m4 q7 G2 G• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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0 S( L7 D( i* W由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
! }8 {  b/ O' F9 \5 X2） 同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3） 如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

( o  t+ Z% n2 d补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。
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当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。
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作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
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让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin

实用的好帖
9 z9 L. \2 `1 ?: q2 F7 x: o5 U, S所谓“越辨越明”啊。
楼主。
老杨。

松杉

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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