說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
! Z5 F& q3 r8 _* W4 e, Y% B学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
( c0 p5 R' f8 ~2 l- [- Q楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
$ t' H* B! G, J f T; Z楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 ! U9 ?9 L- P7 G; w1 O: c, @

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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ; o& ]3 S: E0 d' K$ R M1 E	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE; B) j8 @% d- V: z5 S
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport8 o% X+ _! ?; Q c& C	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE$ Z3 {' r' i) Z! h0 J9 r
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE% h$ D5 u6 Z& x$ N, z3 k, e	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 0 K8 S& S% N" X3 W( j5 k
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 a) ?# }6 D' B& }7 \" l3 _	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 O, u1 d7 ^+ I r
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE : u0 }. H" G' N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 8 h9 W5 E5 T6 ~! a) q+ r
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 3 D4 v. R2 n* ^3 T" C& u	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX - O. p2 H6 B+ A; {- n" J. v
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid. P" G/ @1 d; \|6 g; ~+ a" _	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ( A% s3 k$ D( X( O! z1 i& q. q
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited j& p" V% y# p/ \|" B	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5' S# d' W* q; [4 C% f
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE( M& C. j$ ^2 f9 x( V8 L# k	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE' V$ ~+ j9 `. h( {7 D5 s
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE, c L* r! n4 I: {3 G, B; v! J m	• 1996 Toyota T-100 5 R$ T, J8 d1 b4 z4 \|
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE( K/ Q2 w1 i+ k- o0 `/ K$ O	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST5 W, Y+ M+ h& w
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited ! i' Z N- n$ Z1 ]9 \) E	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 _/ y" I% Y8 A/ G! \# m
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & R9 M% ?! b4 O0 M! ]: k	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX) n9 D" f3 e2 a, m! {6 z
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE ) t6 f4 p2 _8 V* i& \|4 }	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5: U) j1 w* M4 t. M/ B; D
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE9 w, x8 b3 n. L& K% {2 K	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ' e5 K; X& M7 o8 M
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 V& s, S5 B9 }' y3 V	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX: l9 M! m8 }5 U" T( i
• 2006 Toyota Tundra ! U! s$ R5 q4 [% ~1 O5 J	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT . j+ i) ~9 n; @' g: U, ]8 a
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS: U% R9 E9 C* c8 f3 E6 Q	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma $ [ F2 D; f7 i+ E
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL ; {+ r, t3 n, c	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 5 R7 V9 T( M" S* g9 C3 O$ k& T) N) N
• 2006 Toyota Prius . R( E* v1 J+ T: i, j	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX: p3 c+ \|% X7 A( j
• 2006 Toyota Camry $ X# N* _5 n4 S* `: D# L- n	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 7 h0 q5 u8 ], a- c: B: {0 X6 H! a# B" [
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring9 _; F/ x; N2 p; O9 U# u	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE5 M8 O/ `/ E" y u$ r
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma " b' \/ ?% M, t) B3 \|	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE . o6 c {3 u" \, w
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE / Y4 e( a0 F3 n2 d	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton2 x# m' q) P6 c1 t2 `
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited 6 E3 G7 s6 [- s, J; G4 @, n* T	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR59 p0 w7 X* T4 \6 V/ ~% [
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner5 i0 R. T4 A+ d$ q5 \' e; m( t	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 ; y7 w, E8 ^, L6 p1 l. `
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5: ?+ K8 _0 C; u* p	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX0 n6 a a/ u# H% b9 P
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S$ @5 B$ _% h/ p7 h: D	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX$ Q- B/ H- a0 ~( L3 o' ^
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited, \, E5 R+ {( O: y	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & d D {- \+ P/ D2 U/ D
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE+ ^! f& S0 `, V& J% V) {2 w- c2 R	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 7 s$ j$ D8 x0 p) a; _/ F
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS - U/ `# D9 p p1 f+ {	• 1995 Toyota Corolla " ^ b6 T, y& \: Y! g
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ^# b8 f) I+ n0 _* Q	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX' `" {( O; Q5 h& N% G R+ P+ O
• 2005 Toyota Tundra + Y: b7 r$ c9 b5 O" t	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 4 q4 r" K N/ o! P4 i
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 0 g8 t) o0 t4 _0 m1 h" c4 y	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX8 r& Y0 v1 _0 z3 Y
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 $ y* E- o$ T7 W' {! ]	• 1995 Toyota T-100 ' F% e1 W6 @. e# ?; \- I4 W5 Y
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited( [" u) R1 b# d6 H2 l, f& V	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 9 z0 ~0 i) K8 Z2 f8 C# s* ?* B8 _
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL % Q! M. h2 p& M. t4 q	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ' K, w- ^8 D# c9 M X8 w, H" w/ K9 b
• 2005 Toyota Camry 3 n; p5 f& r" i: Y6 y; A. H' R	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5! k1 t( F! E% \|* v2 h; S% k& ?
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring D- Y5 G( _3 r	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX* f" {* h, {+ f, \| m% {. N" O8 c
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE $ k& ]% z2 u3 N6 D5 H' E6 o	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX. _' Z4 r( B" i, }/ `; G4 h9 n* h
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE ) T2 W7 n9 ]) O2 e, \2 ~& A	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX ' d' k: x7 w: D
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited% h6 a; u4 \|) Z- A4 G) R+ _* r	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5: p C" h8 t& s8 F
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma * r; A9 ^2 e7 H	• 1994 Toyota Pickup $ S1 u5 \|. v0 ^9 Y Z& r/ i
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S9 \9 d# }" r! V* e0 Y" Z* e	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE) F" V/ x$ M5 A8 n
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE) s8 O% j( n+ F' V6 T2 ^9 M2 f: o3 H	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 8 R: u$ C! @" b- u6 R8 D1 y3 s- I0 d
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited- v; v4 _* {4 U. l	• 1994 Toyota T-100 3 W. Z5 ~" [( n5 L* \|. o
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5" b5 L1 Q' f, X( @) I	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5; y# p, N P! \|$ h7 \|& R* W
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE 7 [7 ^& e- N9 Q( v	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE Q% X8 M6 x3 a/ i% s7 \|
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 : a- g. I' p. {; a	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX 7 [8 s; n5 Z1 q* E6 T
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS% P; l7 \' p: W' P/ \|7 Y	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5" v0 F A, r0 x% }6 j3 _
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE . M+ s9 e# f ]" n2 z% y	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE5 H7 Q3 ^; t8 s* ^. e
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE9 v" f8 Y" `9 Z% ~" ^/ B% B$ }( K0 W	• 1994 Toyota Corolla & b- H. H- z' p+ G6 q; h
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited: {( p1 Z! Q8 a# ]& k" Z: f# ?	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 6 B! F Z, `* h" K
• 2005 Toyota Highlander " L/ V1 s' j: f, n	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE 6 y+ I3 y, E+ k0 [* C/ f& j
• 2005 Toyota Prius % o) R5 y ?# u" o+ D1 R8 q+ v8 t	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 4 r! I/ A, d. W- Q2 j
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE * V' C. X; ?5 v8 }7 A, [ H% r	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton # X: v; S9 k$ B' G5 \
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE : K2 H) {8 r, G9 E	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 O: b5 q0 ` @3 m6 F" `% R
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited - S' ^" G& ]) A2 f$ @0 E4 R	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX8 o4 f- j* E. F4 t! a2 `
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & F5 ^) Q W7 H	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX 3 O" s) r' n- D) ]
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ; r9 z: y2 f% i7 j1 U	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX, O2 `0 s/ t: s) v4 ^3 _& u$ A
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 9 t. E s, p ?. p# K	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 d, } Z& y# i, L, c9 Y0 d& R% h
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE7 I8 q Z! l/ ^: ^$ x	• 1993 Toyota T-100 ! {) c6 J0 T1 Q& K
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE $ R9 U _+ ?. v# u1 B	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE0 O v, @8 S5 W! {
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited5 V( ^; q& z9 H# d	• 1993 Toyota Pickup - D3 `, A6 i& Q5 V/ r
• 2004 Toyota Prius # D; v: ^/ n5 f8 p	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 9 K D% s8 d( F- }' \' J* {% g# m. M
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ; @5 y" `2 ^& k; b' s	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 3 D3 ~0 D8 T* k3 K3 X
• 2004 Toyota Tundra - ^7 \|6 b3 c4 \|& s4 S+ v" [, ?7 A	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 8 ?$ b0 c7 m" m6 V- m
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE/ v& Z) ] p4 I! T* t" p$ c& M	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 b; Z5 w) n! I u: X; C% \8 s3 i
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited ' L8 l+ K K# `	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE " ]' W' O' R* k% [9 ]
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited ; t1 E: }# f* f( w5 i7 D	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE1 q: t: V8 O! p* _1 x' w
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE % [! t/ C! k) l6 \# p; z+ Z6 w	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX7 {3 u% n7 u4 P' E
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE2 L7 Y2 y$ M6 `3 g$ J	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE2 q R- h: [ t L# I) m ?+ U
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 0 F) f0 }; C7 H& p. v( r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac' }' J9 r; z8 I# `( A. R. J. N
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited9 N! c5 ?$ Y" k% s h	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton, N9 m$ L) ~* W8 o% F0 l, P3 ?
• 2004 Toyota Highlander ' F9 Y7 c! F! X, K! u \ _) u	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE * ~/ ^4 x u; Z Z7 f
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' j+ a( c; U+ _/ ~/ m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla ' q, c h; j9 U
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S # g! N* ^3 z+ L1 y4 O# r# S5 {$ t9 L	• 1992 Toyota MR2 4 }$ j: t1 f( n9 _: f) {
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: ~9 @. q7 N2 k; W& k$ \/ n4 E/ \	• 1992 Toyota Pickup - D9 v) w6 P; D% p# Y8 { F2 R
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 - w: l- c1 b& r4 C+ _8 u0 k9 R* Y	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX, C, ^2 W- G! a
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS + L* R; h+ u* V: H# N; r2 ] }* p	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac ( K6 ? R- F& y, q5 A' w2 ~
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 9 D. e' P: s! _ f+ w0 ^	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 ( E% v! u- g7 w! F
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S8 R3 `; j; p' V; W) R+ \/ a+ B! I	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX - J3 h$ q% [0 I# e. n1 s! X
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited ( t! u" _8 W% L+ _	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR51 N( J3 _. P: O4 S, O
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner6 E1 @% a/ L: H	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser E7 E. I5 M1 ~$ R% n& c
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5' z" X \|1 v5 ]	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof + D( a3 \|% J N, m3 _% z) t
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited/ d% f n9 \. t6 W, g4 P	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE$ t3 H% U3 _) X3 E; r
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 0 `7 {" }/ o+ X' e; m9 s	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 S6 G Y n1 O
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT 4 p& Z/ B6 E' y) U* b+ P1 ]2 c; o	• 1991 Toyota Camry 2 v$ Z& Q& v. x( @8 L
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE5 P% d2 }- ^4 @& o( K( p" [	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ; D9 I( f: x. \|; m) ^0 t
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 0 e' z* B* b5 c# {$ [7 H, H	• 1991 Toyota Pickup $ p0 F5 l; Q/ N( J: _- d
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma + h, [0 g4 P. {) O5 `7 y/ _	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX+ _/ {/ \5 Z4 `* t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ( ^5 w7 H3 x9 Q$ i5 H# B( k	• 1991 Toyota MR2 # O$ \/ T8 k) D8 ^
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE8 E( X- x: z) z9 D$ O' A- s	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 & a4 M5 J, a, R6 N
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 P# G* g2 D# ~0 ^5 F	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX: O7 O- e t5 V0 D, C1 e# `
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE4 n* y/ L' `2 L$ W# \|2 p- Z; T. }	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac $ M" E+ a2 s2 F% p6 \|8 n. H3 q* P
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5) \|, [8 J( h8 m" I, R" N	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac/ \+ ]0 J" H J6 _9 f2 S
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE: L5 Q9 W0 M: s; z4 N: ~	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof , F$ I) F, Y3 r8 Q) M$ m
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE + O6 p! h: j; B4 e2 E$ x7 P	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX4 O% P: n% Q1 l* U4 Y
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited ( ]& b6 S$ R" v, o2 g d	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE + n! q: e$ Q9 \! v6 l$ \! f
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited$ m. {) t; R9 C: @* e8 f	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 6 _5 b/ N/ p, a
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited& G) v6 q7 w( i	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 7 E; D+ ?5 Z) x2 w
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 3 _" f. O9 H2 f9 L0 \; O2 ]6 z) o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE % \|. v% i7 D, `4 Z& R$ e
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE ; v0 p* A3 P: o' `; p" Q5 V	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 v' A( r# u9 O; Q: i: u3 N; I5 U2 V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited c. v/ u6 Q0 q9 w	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ & m) h [2 q6 w( k G* Y' \|6 l8 U
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE6 p3 F; E3 q1 E3 c. ]+ @	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 4 n$ U, N% y# _* [( A, H* I
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ) l( d5 S( k X9 t6 A3 R	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base/ \( H( e1 D$ A
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + F9 o8 [! Q) w) B0 O	• 1990 Toyota Camry , D. ~' r* J' \" D/ F, T) f2 d
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S4 P2 c, ]# V% t" [. g	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST1 u! r+ q2 t8 G% \|7 a3 _* G& \|9 h
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 6 @0 o, @: Y% L8 G	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX , x$ O9 `1 n: t5 _9 `; W% _
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 w' c, [( M. n	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ) T4 l$ e8 o. M! R
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ }$ u5 d6 O; b) e	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR56 N! l' l+ Z+ R* I' R, H$ T! i
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( Y# ?, O, @$ q& O) j9 u	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS * P# U6 F8 x* ^* h
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE+ v3 P6 P+ X* M! L$ n	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser - q# [, Y# G7 w- o% p2 Y
• 2002 Toyota Prius 7 D. C9 ~# _5 i	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton% S+ A! a1 L+ V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR57 X; Z/ ^; @1 o6 V% x j1 X( S	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX2 b x+ q& A% [+ T, f# v" k
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS " O" h+ H4 Q' m( J	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac B. ?% W9 U6 D1 c* a4 x
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE $ C4 }9 F/ ?+ a) g* i! @$ O( q	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac ( ]" q" [( g" w5 j( ]% z J
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma " ^7 o4 D" }# E5 Z7 d	• 1990 Toyota Tercel # H% Z9 E- n6 p! k2 q8 V) D) q
• 2002 Toyota Tundra ) n" E4 U3 L+ \|# N6 e: L	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac+ M) j3 ]6 P. l2 ~# v3 u3 f6 J
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE # Z+ L: B2 V3 \4 \1 w	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac6 t/ P, H8 z3 y- O8 Z _2 C
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE + D4 m' Y9 `; \	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 8 L3 V3 H3 C3 ]; K5 q l
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 4 a2 }3 z$ C- B7 _4 p	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base8 n; d) Z3 g9 }8 I4 u
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited! W% N# l) L ^0 j	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# L7 [- {1 G3 a- `% I4 m" n" \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ) Q% t+ v4 h! F& [ h	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ( _/ K* x4 Y) i4 g! C* P
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE: c, O2 z+ r3 o8 {9 I0 b	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE3 }" G! o P5 v( T7 f9 u. c
• 2001 Toyota Prius 6 w% f# y% ^- x u	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX ( ?$ r3 F) u# d ?
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma + C0 {6 y7 C: z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton4 T. v1 o. }0 e# a4 d6 d$ `
• 2001 Toyota Tundra & d8 \% z3 g( T4 a* \% z	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger % p8 V# b7 W1 i4 U" R# s0 J
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE $ z; _9 e3 [) V8 k+ D	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX3 b/ H$ H* Z1 t9 q8 F1 a
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited) Z) O; D+ o! U0 c) u	• 1989 Toyota Camry # N1 C& G6 S& g0 C) O, t C
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5" s, A7 ^) D+ m5 Y# C	• 1989 Toyota Tercel - J R$ M! g5 H
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 2 m+ \& j# ~" r	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX. u6 F, s: R8 H; n- Q
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE# Y5 {0 X! Y, t0 U	• 1989 Toyota Pickup `6 o2 c& c& O7 b
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ( V7 B0 y: r8 @9 ]" z' c	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5( {( [, \* j K
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS7 C! ?0 b4 s6 C2 U, ?	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 1 L6 u0 ]" q8 W/ ~$ p: C) _; J) K
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE: R, A }* ~" Z8 c4 u& T2 ~1 q1 T5 n; \|	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ' }' z8 O5 S3 Z" n U7 t
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5% R" @. ]+ \|+ @* t8 @) u	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel. b* A& f# }! N) t) S
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner, }( s" ^7 ?. z	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX : J. C5 g& U0 x$ K* `, O: P
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 6 s6 O- f! U8 I* b2 f6 o$ X: _	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 8 @4 r7 F# q, q$ H/ t/ U% f! l
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ' V P8 B5 d8 e" H5 U	• 1988 Toyota Camry " u# `4 C1 V2 t* ~2 z
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner! O, S, @5 \|: Z( J. P	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 }! L" O1 y o6 X H0 g
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; N9 m; i& e1 {! I$ {( l	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger9 v* E& i r. x# x4 @+ R
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE) `0 `4 V! @$ t; h	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX $ C) K0 r5 T. A8 R
• 2001 Toyota Highlander : m" x) a- S; p- y. I! E+ p	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac. X+ n4 I y; g& {) f; q, u
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! Q/ o4 h7 M; _' K/ Q* f	• 1988 Toyota Van DX ! e z b. w! X$ n( K" z3 I/ e# e
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ' S8 ~1 \ [$ }2 @) @	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger* L& a) f, P- r( p
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma 8 E+ P# n# }/ u* \5 p9 Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 0 K9 h! [; j2 M7 c. U
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT/ L+ Q8 X- o6 C1 q( g0 ]	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE6 M4 Y& b! a( c$ O/ N" l
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE& o& Q! i7 o7 n7 U7 x7 F	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window & p5 {+ W# v* h- ]7 [; s
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 6 p0 z7 [& m7 }- ~/ a, W4 m) P	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ) g/ L! L8 J# {/ b( p9 I2 F
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* e' @/ u* u! A: g! }# h	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ! L5 _+ T7 p3 [; {2 N- f4 ]( [
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; S8 L0 R, {3 k	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5$ N& D$ Y$ z) _! A
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited& x7 {0 U3 Y/ S	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ( ?* x+ o3 `0 Q6 S/ `# t; ~- f! J
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 3 _; h& z) \, p: A3 ^ e( J	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B / U, L1 v/ H, ?; Z
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS0 Y) p9 b, `2 `( ]	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac " ?/ [! \3 N) N
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE8 b4 _" d( F5 c' J9 V	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger $ a. L) y! h/ g/ v& H H
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 7 [* m) ?! _% I; B	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR51 O' x7 t7 b; C
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited # _% a1 \& G' ]7 N6 ^	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 5 x, \|& g( ~0 \|6 Z+ R0 f
• 2000 Toyota Tundra & z% {+ \|8 k$ ~6 P$ h5 C Q	• 1988 Toyota Van LE: l9 d# o. L# x; `6 d& I- t3 Q0 _
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS/ i1 U1 q$ b% R& A0 ^+ z0 M	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 ]1 U2 k* \$ H6 n
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE - z1 d5 Y! X# c4 E* g# k- v	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR54 ~+ V f9 F9 S1 L( S
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited # K& n8 E U, x$ \7 L2 ~	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE ' v: B& a3 z( G: ^
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner : T% z3 n, a7 Q( }1 w; O	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 6 e$ a5 ]7 u- T
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE( a3 F5 C; z6 p7 h, q# h	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window) X+ w. X. ?# k% h7 J# E
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 {# y& x" U3 Y. P( ^; A2 r	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton) a: h" o, c! r! J9 m
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE 7 K# M& W& [5 N7 s5 S. s8 i	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 " Y" e( g* s$ g$ m5 P) S, c% I
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL/ N' o7 b6 g* r) e3 r" }0 `	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX3 d. x4 i2 l1 y0 O9 g& b# B! H
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 9 [3 e' j2 Z& P. k	• 1987 Toyota Tercel : P7 ~! l( z V/ K
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 4 A* g( j& q- a* p. X8 _0 `	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 3 B. K1 \|, O9 n) k
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5$ H1 P0 u# `% K! ]+ Q	• 1987 Toyota Van LE 0 I* T+ M% {+ Q' \|
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE/ G: a8 K. C, h, o	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel2 q7 g! d: c% v- X
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE3 \| a H* p \|0 ]# _3 d	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX) p1 B2 Y2 i% W6 F1 j+ r9 \|
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma ! H0 ^ j" I* D+ m	• 1987 Toyota Pickup , T7 o) D4 W( P5 J3 d% `
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS* D; _8 ` u2 c0 N	• 1986 Toyota Van LE % M2 T' Z5 S; X1 `/ M9 ^8 L) \
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE , _( \9 h2 J- G) f	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser - ^% u- z9 B) O7 U, l
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ t& j/ s) C& D" f6 q( o, H	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel $ ?: \8 v9 w+ o3 ?! u k4 S# _
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 - D3 F: B3 X7 {, o( z0 m5 _- e	• 1986 Toyota Van DX # ^, c- r. R# z
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited8 H1 [( O% Q! e	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window1 L% ? z/ H, \% F! J/ m+ b
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE O, a4 _; P b5 O( J+ s& p9 z4 o	• 1985 Toyota Van 6 ^: ~8 v* x& {* C
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE : v# ]. w- U9 j! s& ^$ B	• 1985 Toyota Van LE , w5 w# D$ @+ t7 U) i
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL2 x7 `, j+ r% k _8 Q/ w	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 3 S* S1 f3 k" g- T7 j" M
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE : h, }3 X0 ?$ S) m! Z' W2 ]	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser g' R$ m8 l/ R" y* A+ y
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited# O2 c' y9 d! \|: o( a# T	• 1984 Toyota Van DX0 T6 C. k; l3 \4 a" f' b
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE4 D7 q/ q- h: Z- X' ^	• 1984 Toyota Supra 5 Y5 c) I+ d# N* \; r6 s, ]
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE , `' ]. z8 N. p0 t# l1 n	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX1 d$ F1 _. ]% ~2 p- m$ C
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE / _! U% I2 t0 G8 r0 i7 B	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ; o, u' @- u. {# _' w0 J: R
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited1 v: y+ e ^' e9 p2 c( H	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 8 L1 n# H8 _# n, u& F
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS3 ?. ]) l f1 J% o( ?& R	• 1984 Toyota Van 2 d W7 M7 o+ ?, j7 v( D
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE . U/ `6 X. W2 C) X0 K2 ~0 N	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE 8 h7 j" m) f# N! B! w" j
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner ! L9 ]: `2 G' W	• 1984 Toyota Van LE 6 ]* N) ~+ Y' G8 c! Q8 H# }9 {
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE9 J" B3 W9 v' P, r& Y: j	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE8 L, P+ f w5 }# o/ D& W) A* p
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX+ h0 F4 }$ W, u	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR52 C5 H$ l. {. Q( C. I
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR57 X) E6 X& M! r' @( n	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX0 D: ~/ m+ }9 h
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE, [4 A$ ]. t# t6 e% A3 y0 U. B	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 6 \|3 v2 H$ u. K7 J
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 8 O: ?1 {3 n' X5 L2 C	• 1983 Toyota Supra & a8 p5 j( K) f
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ( l q$ A5 Y/ U: T	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ( _. F. \|, f: Y4 X
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 0 X0 v, d; Q7 Q	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 2 T) T; T; E0 X3 y2 n
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE9 D) Z5 g& }5 R5 K6 Z+ V6 q	• 1983 Toyota Cressida % X$ O" Z# x% n
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner8 \| G; T6 @; n' x) W. s+ N5 F ?: L	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT * I( \|# w" Q' s4 I$ C; {& R
• 1998 Toyota T-100 8 ~& ?0 W9 B9 @5 X" ^3 \& Y5 b	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser ( \) v2 A6 Q F' w. p0 U3 I
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited6 [3 l i: y2 l7 ?% K9 \/ R. S	• 1982 Toyota Cressida # L2 W9 r$ ?6 a2 ]1 ~! I1 f
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 8 B( l* x- `( U/ N) q; l	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX $ V( h C; J& @
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 , x, j9 u6 u( I1 C& w/ @	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 8 J5 \) Q8 W4 B0 p' S" e. D5 n
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5" y6 e, [0 b8 u2 J) \/ }( w	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 3 K& ~! F7 x, u+ X4 n' M
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX $ w& V) C" k; V$ U	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR54 i6 L7 h; J* R# B2 b/ l) c
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma + @. t5 V& H1 r, _	• 1981 Toyota Tercel : w& s# c: g, ]! D# \
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ( c! b( F( \# D; v) l9 S+ Y	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 & U( m5 i7 \|) i( o9 f+ S5 p
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX7 ?# L- h# b8 v1 K1 Z	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 B6 ~' ?, A3 q7 P( J; e* \|3 t
• 1997 Toyota T-100 * `6 k/ K" F* \) r" g4 W	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX9 [# C9 @ H) R$ V) M6 H+ Y1 i
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited- U% H" i# ~$ v& p8 L2 T	• 1981 Toyota Cressida # c$ e# h9 O! s7 i9 E' o, S, p! r
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE / V; ]& s+ ?! O ^$ n0 J	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT ' P4 U7 v% b& y
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 ' s2 _! i5 E- C/ Z0 d	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 8 a2 [8 Y+ W$ A4 ` f6 [
• 1997 Toyota Corolla : g$ j( \) g, D4 u- U3 A [	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 Q/ H1 ?+ r4 s& t7 I. ~+ U
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5) ?/ r+ l V" S! v0 X	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe0 w5 P$ _" n/ Z# i4 ]
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 2 x6 h1 z4 U, a7 [	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX ( i# V T5 B9 i, U9 j' M
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE! s% I3 v2 v3 p, A- j	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST - u/ v+ T6 B k; w3 D- G
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner 7 c% C0 Q, S ? a7 x8 w. c	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury) C* _* N ]- C2 n% p& o
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE 8 P0 \|% @' o0 j. A' a7 l! z: N0 l	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 2 n @7 o. x9 r' a& N3 Q3 H: {
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 6 l/ ?2 O& X8 c4 S9 j	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5( S" H: {: B- m1 O# K
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX% p3 Q% d f" w3 t/ ^8 i	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe + S* e4 ]- D2 q9 x
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE1 V4 t) }1 ~7 W( l( V% r	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR50 ~) {6 E3 k; n8 R
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 " H" ~* c- U/ q" N( G7 I" K: S

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 7 X) Z; m, A/ @; T1 \2 d; Q3 V

5 A! b* g3 g8 @9 j( u* v. K t4 P如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：/ c/ Y5 u' s% [9 e
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
- R0 c% {! y' ~ Q• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
* G( Z- x0 P) d6 X&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
5 L( K* O: H* S* e+ A- dApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 2 R, P8 b3 I5 R- O" W' n" Y8 T
) W9 ~- A0 z8 o, |, r6 e8 O

+ J: `* S6 e; P7 {7 F$ k- Z佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。& V& U, a% Q- W3 J) i [

4 T" L( G5 W. m; A由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：/ B7 j1 U# T% Z& f: ^& V# l' _. N

* u1 b# | a2 m! T9 f1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2 v) g) q1 Q* ^% [2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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