說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 * A2 C6 U- j) o8 x$ C+ C% S
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
8 G1 o2 f, r- ?% h+ x- w楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
1 ^9 j% g/ D$ Z( k% `2 ^+ ~楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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! J! d8 \4 L0 u6 Z看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE# D- c8 G+ S* U	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 4 N) Z7 Z0 Z# \+ n" I9 p5 i% X; x
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 5 a$ S5 n% q" @* ^: d	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 3 [% i' _; n D9 M7 ?$ ?7 g( u0 K
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE # Y- w" P8 {7 h- b; Y Y! V	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX& P- Z& Q+ ~! f& j% C u, U
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4 ?' R% x% w1 o, J/ M6 M( M	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5! p8 g5 ^8 D4 B! B9 k) M
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE ! O; A5 _8 G& s) o	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE! Z& ~4 a; t7 l3 `8 x
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 8 ]* J2 t6 s9 L+ P, p7 M; C	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 7 \|9 S9 n& _% W5 P" p$ G! _. q: O
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 9 J l7 q, w$ z& _8 n	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 9 g, {1 @+ X! s. Y! k( S
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited; d, s; F6 d: U) c7 t% n1 c- m0 x	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5* u' b" a& l3 A; q( [
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE - h" ]% q" S$ g$ L( @	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE7 T4 g d+ j) q5 Y G, W
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE9 I% d' N6 W* i# P& y	• 1996 Toyota T-100 9 P4 x% \# H3 k: H& q
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 9 p2 U$ K: [$ F& _	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ; Z$ i5 X1 \; S
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 3 k" x! G. h" x" Y. S b	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited % a% o& D; f: d) ^2 }9 w
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner : R3 E9 f" P; \|7 T' l @# O	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX, v s$ e- Z- ] U8 b
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE" z }$ {6 g( ?	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 1 u$ ]+ y/ @5 K. R
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 0 d0 i6 x4 u/ g% N" g	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ) q! a3 {% l$ y) \
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5# W, ?. E/ e f* N2 ?	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX + I K$ S: \|! ]1 T2 i) @
• 2006 Toyota Tundra + i2 P3 K: N) o) I7 s9 ~	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 1 E% j4 B4 W; `9 A3 Z3 y: R7 W7 a! ~
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS " `8 O& a8 j9 y, R0 [	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma 1 d! E6 a4 n+ _- R, [) [6 C' M
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL3 t) q# ^1 A1 M* N k	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - j3 @4 [1 T& U- p
• 2006 Toyota Prius & H; z/ L0 ?/ n	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX & V7 \6 k$ q2 V4 g! t
• 2006 Toyota Camry * d5 ]; g9 @$ \. @& D4 t( A' v9 S	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 8 d$ S* a9 M% P i& a$ A
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 6 F+ O( ^, Z$ w" ~8 r- x	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE' S, g% L9 N9 Q8 Q# w, V& k
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 u$ g* Y \- q5 l! b, u	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE & _; [# A% D/ c: y0 _5 t2 F- M
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 5 S: l+ m. ?9 \|	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 6 n% n8 T# m0 U2 e. Z7 h
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited* @2 R- _: u9 l	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 7 _8 b' k% z) _
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner& E" ~& h& J/ V' T5 V7 o6 t- k% O3 @	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5. @ K, f" \; ^% j* c
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 . y1 R6 c M3 k	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX / w! d0 z1 ~2 p7 I; O
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S ( y& \& G N6 T- F# z: H4 c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 2 I4 b2 u' l, A! C2 ~! P* J% A! q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited5 {' ?8 T; X# n9 {- W	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 # g( ]3 e" o, w- b
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE& E* i& g4 s7 \4 ^0 _	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 8 X+ G, g# X# h) ]7 p* G- @% c; y
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS2 a' f3 V2 m$ V9 U- E4 Q. j	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ' t, a8 d( h( O& l
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner : R* U9 @! d0 x$ Q3 R% z: F( \|	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 w8 O9 E# ^% [6 s, A0 b5 j p- [
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 6 d$ E' D3 H) ?4 x	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 1 \4 B0 f, Z" V7 x/ ]) [+ t
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS; W6 \* @/ l/ [, \|6 V3 S" p	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 5 ]6 V# T6 ?3 X" w- J+ S; A; `
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 : G! I$ P9 @/ _1 \|	• 1995 Toyota T-100 . N6 {" h- V6 x9 I# P: V8 o
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited+ `3 ^# S, \8 e6 U1 U& c	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma , z1 \|/ f: N. ]' o! f5 e) s( _
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 1 w. V* Y, G1 X3 g	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ! Z) A. n# U+ k3 u: H" Q
• 2005 Toyota Camry 2 }# y4 _4 Z0 Z	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 ! @* W& X# Y0 h- i- n. Q
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring ! C9 u( v) a7 A4 f	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX4 T+ T% H% I$ }1 W& i" P
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE - q- U4 z. B9 p0 M4 v8 }	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX( d7 a, h# a! s- `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE ) z4 z6 Y I) N7 Q G	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX " e ~, Y. d* b, m
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited. r" k% D5 g) S M* [5 b$ h6 G	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR50 F0 K$ @5 \$ J1 l
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ! C2 a7 R. U/ U	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 5 a. k* l4 d O/ p& I& L
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S 8 i0 K$ e" _8 g. F& Q	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE' w/ p5 I. Z/ y6 {1 b' x* S0 v
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE9 Z1 E, O% Y( [& P3 F! l+ r	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE . {, @% A2 n# X9 ]/ b6 r; j
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited 7 [' x- m! Y. }) Z, \|. S	• 1994 Toyota T-100 . W& `" A6 T z& O
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5: S* f9 F/ H7 r/ G	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR50 s5 c: K) H. `- P( W/ X
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE' P2 R2 H+ U( C	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE$ T, L1 J* H/ \4 A
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 - q ]7 h N \	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX0 ]9 B( J1 g& U- i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS1 I3 ^8 ~, J9 O7 J" m	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : r; p1 _; W7 _7 N% s7 i
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE$ i, h& a' r4 ~, }! P	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE4 e. h w0 M8 [2 {
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE# M2 I+ ?; j/ N2 y! n1 E+ u	• 1994 Toyota Corolla . p3 J# h7 M) Y4 a
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited, W, o+ Z, z7 C7 `+ H	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 0 P: L! s! d9 C; U
• 2005 Toyota Highlander % z/ } Z1 I0 a9 G6 j* W3 u7 S$ z	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE/ z" J( p" x2 h2 _$ H6 w
• 2005 Toyota Prius ' q4 D/ } i% U1 b, s	• 1993 Toyota Corolla $ n; Q1 S, K C7 z$ \
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE ; D9 M2 ]& z5 f5 r7 ^$ V) a	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton * J6 `& H* Q$ F1 T
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE; N1 k _9 q# J [9 J	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5) a3 O8 @8 Z& B" R! w
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited) H8 c. Z4 T) u' {$ v	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX( [/ m3 P) X6 ~( L; j3 f
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 + ~, W$ q( \4 v m! O7 G$ \|! A8 c	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX5 ]0 E9 N1 \|3 v1 i" \|8 ?, G
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 6 T) _' T6 [$ ]; c( F) U( C. e f# n	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 5 g" _, q5 Q$ I: G
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE * R& U. b* m: w; {5 e& x	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ' a) A1 L2 \0 i f9 I8 D0 P8 F
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE8 d o+ c$ h; P- E, r, q& V	• 1993 Toyota T-100 7 _( {: I1 u3 W" k
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE9 A7 ~" j# C; m0 }9 }7 s% Q	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE. @% [& k' b( I. H6 g s' u3 j
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited " h0 }8 j8 y& q* ?	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 3 m; J8 D+ M* P
• 2004 Toyota Prius ! y8 U. c4 y( c3 t	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE - U% P/ v8 f+ a! E, F
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma # Q. c0 U' o& b& Z, M$ L	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE; r7 [( j$ w* e
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 1 c9 D( z B! V+ } M	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 & @% V/ k; ~" b
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE/ i/ Y4 t0 T% v4 g$ J' v! ^	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 Q) g8 B6 X1 X/ Q3 g% Z7 t; c
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited & A# S) L, f& d( H5 w	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE ' H7 r: Q- \* x& M
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited# f) V0 ~% t! R* k	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE! r% O% ]& J, d& E0 }
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE/ j' R9 c6 S! l# F6 @2 H6 ^	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX3 e/ x6 a7 l, H& q/ \
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE. {9 g/ K* Z/ @/ Y1 N; m	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE + L2 a- x) X+ u( N$ Z! \|2 K/ Z
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE: ~; \|' }" H4 E, Y* H+ r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac $ S% T! s3 H+ K5 J9 y) B. c6 \
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited # w0 p+ p# v4 u4 \|	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 0 n/ g- p- N- A2 z# s2 @6 X0 \
• 2004 Toyota Highlander " C# _( I/ P+ Z/ f; {% K	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE& y2 t; v* o% g4 A$ D0 _( F
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 8 @% d) O* B2 m9 E	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 1 X' @3 q- U# K* N
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S . a) v& A( F. c- i	• 1992 Toyota MR2 + n2 l' q$ h' i
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 A3 k# [1 R5 j7 N/ Z2 y	• 1992 Toyota Pickup / J6 U* j0 }- ]& A
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5/ H, A! j6 r6 `# K' W; \|9 i: e	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX & q# H% W+ Q( j% T' }" a; w- D
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS E0 N8 c8 k" @# Q! I	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac( o5 q% v& g! p/ y
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner / `' \- L! @- I& R	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5, Y' R- \|4 i7 }0 l! G% e
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S , U5 Q; E" R r" _1 m	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX7 s$ I5 U0 M6 \|; P4 {
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited 6 m$ r) U6 F. j3 ]8 `	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5* f' j- k4 c2 _6 a
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 0 X- s: o. \5 t$ z/ N9 ]( E5 n	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser $ m: n- T1 W% C9 o
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5) r: p9 ~$ e2 u- q/ ], j	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof- S! D$ a0 b2 Y1 K, [& _
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited 8 ?$ c: B! g" x7 b" L. A: M5 G	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE- L4 c9 _$ G% e9 i \|' a V/ S
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 8 s1 w% k5 b1 N) M	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; v( c2 Y; w% d# j, A
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT$ } a( n4 x/ b, I+ T, R	• 1991 Toyota Camry 0 Y3 e" _+ o+ o0 l2 U# X8 ~
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE! R0 Y4 e9 C- x" V	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 X) m- c+ x, l, ^$ g8 `& p
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ) \|. ]5 \|* x" u; \4 ~	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 3 M3 ^. w- n) [/ O% `: ~
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 3 D4 W5 ]0 u) @" v* ?4 y/ H	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX ' T; q; ], V+ h9 Z
• 2003 Toyota Tundra - \|9 W. o5 B- [3 q& a4 J/ z9 K	• 1991 Toyota MR2 + T0 b2 a$ n! J% X }4 ^ N% d$ o) x
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE : d4 i% F% \ c$ X& j	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5/ i$ P7 B6 M' v4 V9 h
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited }# O o2 {/ V4 H2 F	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX - a5 X% l1 j* \|6 e( y9 m
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE : g, ^" d; n( x	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac $ C9 U# P) m. O7 y2 }
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * \' w. y5 l0 D	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac8 C8 m0 @ i( G2 O: E. J0 v
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE : M; ?4 [5 K" Q5 y9 O9 `. C	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof3 V$ b: y- v% O1 l& Z9 R7 {8 w
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE* e) h. K% p9 k" ` C" _! X$ R( ~	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX P2 ?# `* l% `2 q3 m0 u
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited * i" ]1 A9 ~$ Q; k9 D& o7 G: V	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE 2 @$ ~" Y2 ^/ G4 N% C
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited( E) U {( j3 ~" F	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton * Y6 b2 S) h5 p9 m w: r# \$ B
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited ' a; ?8 n6 I2 m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 6 e* o5 M# k+ p6 q9 u+ X0 r) t5 _
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ' K3 K4 t& P5 N, F) q$ i& d" v1 Y	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE% v U9 v5 j) ~" o
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE# ~3 Z# J. b4 v( h% [& U% m2 ~4 g	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! }3 l. m" B/ J# A' D; X
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited( \, V0 L" m0 u& Q- c6 @. k0 q1 i	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ' X6 U* u' T2 t5 ?1 y$ h% l
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE9 H4 t8 w$ @/ ^3 q9 K: I' X	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT, ^' `/ }2 [. I
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ; J ]' _1 w+ X) m' {	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base- Z2 M N6 W# E) }; g: W+ E
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner + P* Z3 i4 o* v; l	• 1990 Toyota Camry 5 u# z1 q4 q# _8 W4 F) Z
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S4 h% ~3 k# o8 G5 a5 ^	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST# D4 g/ M" w- ]- d- W5 g5 E1 d
• 2002 Toyota Highlander $ E. c# g1 d+ r6 X7 J l	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX @; S- T! `* r* W: S3 w
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner % B' Q8 S0 Z) p, E	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX ( r ^& m4 J4 Y' ]- w5 Y
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 }: p, ~9 C$ a# p4 f	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 * T9 q1 K I' U! B- b' m. F
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR59 T i& o4 D+ V, Y1 N3 j: s	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 0 r$ q5 L8 @7 G. l2 R* a+ q
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE1 P* r0 s; I/ T" L9 A	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser ! o6 Y6 O/ y+ J' y& v
• 2002 Toyota Prius " R: \* R% `" ]9 M3 m# G4 W& P	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton / ?2 [ _$ g" h7 C7 {
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5* O+ H% d0 \|7 t" v	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX2 c- x8 V" d: T) _
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 2 C1 g4 I7 H! N2 n	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac) m" H' ?- V: T2 }1 H
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE * F9 \+ l1 V; \|6 \|$ v	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac- N$ ~; g, z) a2 K2 m4 p
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma * j7 E$ X2 {2 u# u	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 5 t! e H! C9 p6 g1 N
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 3 P3 ^- `4 s) S1 `) t. V- M9 e z	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 2 m7 b3 s( o! G$ t% G) T" y
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 9 ]9 o* q+ D! U J( b! }9 E	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac & ?; S5 q7 W b+ \0 V# w: Y0 J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE5 p5 Q( Z n" I3 d	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger: F5 z1 a9 F! T' O. e
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 4 n: {8 S' b; K0 k0 S	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base , ]0 d( x$ j) n( f
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 3 o. K r: e5 P8 \	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 7 O5 Q1 \3 ~9 P! @# Y3 g( i; g
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT4 I1 Y3 o, }) Q/ z* i1 y8 r/ H. s; G	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser . Y9 H& n0 q& w5 F# a/ G
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE5 n! K9 p2 K9 g1 f" A7 _8 w) T- W	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE2 o; X9 a( O+ X0 c2 p) S. A
• 2001 Toyota Prius * Z" o' y: U1 g) T% a	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 v9 V* i! T- _. k7 Q2 T1 g
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma ! m0 j$ c8 M/ N( V6 a# L. ~	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 _8 z/ j" q% G
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ) D7 \, M, O6 K	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger + u0 J/ I$ }9 @* g( n- R
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE. h( b, x6 [8 W! j	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX $ D+ `2 S$ o& N; h
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited" }, n& F' D3 U ^5 e	• 1989 Toyota Camry : \|9 A2 x2 n/ n! i
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5( b$ Z6 U \|3 o& y8 {9 }" h* X	• 1989 Toyota Tercel % u w( [3 W1 ?* {" ^
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE) X: ?+ S' p' \|. [	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX * ]. _1 i6 ~; v8 B
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 7 S3 m) k. n7 c' A: ~" Q	• 1989 Toyota Pickup . @3 y, g, a5 M8 S1 H) \|% p
• 2001 Toyota ECHO & M2 [& x }1 t) R% N5 \	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 & T2 A h3 q8 [2 D" f4 J
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS( N1 k) ~; t7 F i) z5 b	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 2 ?+ {& s' A0 z: y- \|: o
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE + Z, l+ m- Z2 e& a	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ" E0 \6 w, j2 l) `
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 V8 i8 ?" B3 f6 t/ O	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel5 C B% t3 q$ m
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner6 N0 D. r' h4 m9 p- ?# j1 Q/ ^0 E	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX6 H+ l! L/ u* {2 _. h! f
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS+ w! G0 o8 y' I: p: R( E	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ! A- g1 n+ q) F; l: Q* c. o. V, a
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S) @, T2 ^$ E7 M& F9 M& C	• 1988 Toyota Camry - C; n+ F! A4 Q9 n& K
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ a$ r W6 u; u6 o. G1 j2 \|+ y3 ?8 t	• 1988 Toyota Pickup % ]# h* r. [5 d" Z
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( F: C) O( j9 d2 t( [3 A	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger % d% @. b. j" q
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE5 ^7 I7 P& L3 ^' P+ e, g" p7 s$ w	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX ) d! H {+ g6 ^. Y2 t3 B
• 2001 Toyota Highlander " S# w+ d0 p( G% D: `' z	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac5 B; @4 g- A9 l% c) v8 B. r
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited & G. q5 n, v7 o' C2 y4 H( B	• 1988 Toyota Van DX ( \|4 \|- r" r( x) j& Q6 c
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 5 ~! w% v* S' }9 d	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger/ M3 \|0 ]- Z: B& K( S6 m
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma . a, A+ I# u5 S: b2 g, r	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 3 J, P$ g9 d$ x
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 0 p" d( V: y0 z7 t& A* s; R) S8 A	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE; d7 a4 _( C1 I! }' K- K
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE% O! M& `) `' m: O	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window' `# ^; v+ t6 P N E( q& w
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 4 a' U9 b Q8 D4 u; C2 w" A6 h9 Y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton, `8 a) M7 C a1 \|
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner% w+ Q x' Q& J( u! Z	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 E. M: b$ G) I4 R
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5( f* S1 Q" q$ o9 ]0 a6 T	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 8 j1 D- \|6 b6 k( M9 w- _
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited ) [ o, c; C" ?6 p# b! j Y* I	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger3 ~( [5 v Y z. D! e* H
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE7 h# z5 z* ]1 C7 V I- M	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B # [8 n/ z# c" r2 \; i+ w
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 9 k( T; J2 j0 I, ?% d% b	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / F: c; l( a; b- y7 X2 }& T
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE # @' [ r# O3 g! \! R) X& N; c	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger7 u% W% k' d) O+ B m, H
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara S) G1 V/ j; ~4 x9 f# {	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5& o5 k9 [, q; G+ ~" }2 c
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited * _! \|# a6 X5 `6 O: O	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 5 ]/ m! y- y- b& U9 @
• 2000 Toyota Tundra + o& w d+ {9 g" `) g	• 1988 Toyota Van LE & {( w& r" o% X y) k
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS e- J+ {' K/ q0 Q% ]) x0 z	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) E# M; F! b. F4 t8 I# L, E% v
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 7 s# _1 [ c( _( l" w	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5: O. l4 z6 p$ j2 ^4 H; }' w$ {1 i
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 5 p2 \|0 i' P5 K+ t2 e	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 8 J% P) G* O" h9 r. T# k
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner $ f4 G# N- W0 ?	• 1987 Toyota Van DX8 [# I. e# v1 U9 k
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE & h2 \|1 i! p6 h4 {# @' m	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window - V, K; z! h3 X6 ?
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 a* F4 E# y7 S5 l+ Z3 T6 x	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton5 ~( M. ~+ L# y
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE : o3 W0 t+ Z0 R# T6 }	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5* S% x! B6 o# i+ \|" ^4 j0 k* D
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 0 E* n* Q% F/ R; s	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX) @! e. d3 I8 ^; l* K7 }/ e2 U9 x
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner . E- O# I$ C2 M/ L& u* q/ @5 C; _5 E) `	• 1987 Toyota Tercel : @+ Z) C- T: n) X1 h- ?7 u( T# C
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE ( ~6 p% c; y3 U& {	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX1 p5 @' S- [1 V( p
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ r: S, s* j, s2 a0 ~	• 1987 Toyota Van LE" N' a' x0 h: L6 M' C1 o7 c! g
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE ' z f4 N3 _8 t+ a6 }: o. L. Z; b	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel3 y# j8 g5 S; g6 n- r
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE, s' k" y1 r+ W5 J7 p% {# z( ^	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX! H# H0 O' D* ]$ j' q! ]
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 8 D3 _7 ?* O B; o; H	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ) a3 D5 r* h. O2 w, b- C4 q
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS" f H) M# \|4 n! P5 {8 Q. a	• 1986 Toyota Van LE : P5 D( K& T# l% ]: f# l
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE9 x/ D. Y9 X; b6 a	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 M& Y# m) b/ Q3 V' a, s
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner3 c2 f" _3 r" I	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel8 h0 r% H1 f8 H) k5 y
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 + J, d1 x: q# d# a' {& ^0 W	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 9 U5 K2 ]: a# A/ S5 R; Q' i( a& \7 o
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited 5 M2 _3 n0 R2 Y: V	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window3 f: E6 z! V7 f0 i
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE) l$ ]4 r$ q0 a$ o# P: G	• 1985 Toyota Van + @# a8 F/ J/ L5 n3 Y5 q$ g+ ?
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 3 Q, U7 P; e; \+ V* M	• 1985 Toyota Van LE2 `$ G/ \|$ i) M8 R( ]4 [
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL1 V* d4 k* b# p+ E	• 1985 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE # E" R# a' E& f	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser ; ]0 {) l5 I" X* r( V) q, k! [# D
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited0 [2 [ H, z9 n: O, D, q1 h8 w( F	• 1984 Toyota Van DX W) s; B. V4 x* m# H/ F! ~* G
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 7 ]; o3 s h+ [/ _3 g$ P	• 1984 Toyota Supra ' M' E7 v. Y1 V6 _
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE ) M6 G! I: F, O0 A$ r& z	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 0 i9 q5 M# H3 V1 P& C: o" x
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE3 [$ X9 g3 N- J) o0 u	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ) J+ p# U8 r; a
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited3 H6 Z+ j* D \	• 1984 Toyota Cressida ( p& e9 J2 b' e- M3 @$ b U8 o% y
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS & V7 g% `7 \|% h/ [% ^7 _	• 1984 Toyota Van * E( j, B2 W& E. g- a% r
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE$ f- @2 t& `: Z! E& ^ O	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ( J1 D' L9 b+ g% i% e% D
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner / f/ n! Y7 _( B: l3 M m( o	• 1984 Toyota Van LE* D9 Z/ ^! }% o' N g* a l
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE $ G' V! @! j! \|7 t, l4 \|	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE % v" n1 W0 \7 q5 d: s
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX* n7 L2 q0 J$ \5 U	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5! `. c/ w# ]. k! X
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 q* ]) L* ]) T	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX4 ?7 C1 A8 c! }1 v' [& \|" i
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE * u* i- ^# E+ B% h: t$ d	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ( J! I/ Q: `8 H* s
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE * p$ `- K" F L	• 1983 Toyota Supra 1 q2 I5 \|+ J3 e
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 2 O" C q5 s$ U7 Y9 h: J+ Z" g4 B	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 ~" p; C2 K8 T$ _
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL " ~5 m0 z3 v+ h" X2 l* l1 I. r	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX ( Z; X/ n1 N2 c) w
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE 2 y+ e9 g& ~7 A0 e& J	• 1983 Toyota Cressida . _' S; U4 N4 k% f- Z
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner! C/ c& g9 [5 G" Y! r, G% Y0 J" e- A9 \	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT ; W* {6 ~# X6 s y( B
• 1998 Toyota T-100 & A2 c& k& M5 w* R& j D	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 F9 x/ g ]# K' k4 B: D' g7 Y1 M
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 7 C( n; L, ^9 X1 i4 r0 k	• 1982 Toyota Cressida " I- A5 R" L4 p7 y
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE: c' X2 C& y: z/ X. j7 z" }6 \|- S	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX* u- }: Q( c6 w0 L
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 $ ^$ w7 O7 e: `7 j& I9 w	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST - g3 n" ^0 e! a4 N
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 r- M8 @6 f9 p4 q2 S	• 1982 Toyota Tercel + y6 ?: y: X, K+ ?- H
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX# H. @! m+ G7 t G	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 1 v8 g2 s% L: Q& s
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 0 n/ {8 b& n. U8 n) G g	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 3 w+ E2 F8 ?$ ?$ R
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS+ ^% @8 w5 W& n- L5 V+ M	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 4 E% i9 N1 T5 j: k8 r! b
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX % M: I% S6 Q1 i8 ~& r	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser & S( v* l# D m, F% o* \
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ; X! A( _5 s0 \7 y) M G. E	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX 4 \|" p* g" e+ \|% C
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited- g& S( u/ A2 p0 B. S	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ( h( s. b2 f W4 c( o/ U
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 1 d# q8 y! M' f! Z1 x	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT0 f" I% l7 B. [2 p8 m! m! V; D. C
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5' J$ x8 a! r% b( _" a3 B$ \|	• 1980 Toyota Corolla % A. u& v a- r
• 1997 Toyota Corolla : s- }7 D: R3 R W	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser # t5 ~2 N: r0 m( }
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 9 y, }/ \|! a0 ]& C E( X	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe " t& o" \# ] Q6 m8 T7 x/ ?: b
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL 2 h, T+ F$ j5 V. S3 w	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX ) b8 X, d9 e. `* a
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE( u* g6 U4 a2 o- l% Z) \|7 r# [/ {	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST" k1 I* T# o g; l6 p
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ( W7 ~7 k/ _3 ]: U0 K$ {2 I	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury- \|: \& T+ u* e B" t7 {; J1 p# u
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ! N; n5 ]* v2 b1 u+ u4 d! l	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 7 x+ p' @, V ^! g7 ^
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE ( D7 I# v" Q" }# ~) J	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 9 g! D' b2 s2 S( ]& O
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX' j2 G- `3 ~ r	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe % a: t1 O$ I! R+ u8 ?
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE * R9 C; \* x [# j! [) P$ n	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5' _/ D5 A" Z8 t! g4 v O( @2 `" g" {! m
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5' K: v6 s$ q' h1 \|& \|4 K1 @6 X

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 3 s5 B8 v- Y. D' O5 L5 m; q1 o
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：0 y: x/ j9 W2 d' Z' Q
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
1 P' P+ L# Z$ y/ x• 1997 Toyota Camry CE& C! u2 P+ |5 }' H1 E) E& I" }: d
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
) n( h6 l2 w) f% u& I) FApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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- b8 o5 A+ s: O佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
! y& w: l- T, Z4 R3 Q* J8 v. ?/ b1 L- J8 `' l
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
, K4 u4 h1 U5 t& m! I
7 ^0 Z" T3 L/ A3 m( @1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
- t: C/ F- u" ?( |2 M2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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