說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
9 ?8 p. w9 j) `% J* ?学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
& v" _: S: e- F4 [# D) R1 I+ T楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 ' e3 H6 j) n, u
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 4 Y2 c3 h) B! @0 @: B: K

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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ! n2 E3 \|! M8 b# T9 X! ]	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE $ p0 c2 P4 e( k; G( u5 k [
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 5 w1 k% x* g( C( O: F	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE 1 N/ t/ ]5 e" W$ s0 l- t
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE( ]7 A: J6 F& G: f* i	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX; y: r$ W( K' ~% _
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR53 I ~* Q: z: g& n* X, W	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5' a1 ]& j+ r: w V0 g, m! V
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE # ~1 p; J# E; L( @6 C	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE. X7 R& F& A+ J+ o" B
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE- S; O( E1 n" ]( t. ?% k# T	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX$ f1 l! y% x& a7 M: B* j; @
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid" ?4 _$ g2 H; q5 v	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ; `: _% C u5 U( t' S! P3 B* @4 F
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited+ E3 m* d# m7 X( @1 m: p	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 : h% s1 i8 ~4 H* e8 i
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE ' ?2 E6 g6 l/ t1 J	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE( A1 K; T6 f/ R8 ]' r8 b2 E6 ?
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE 3 M' B. l* x) a, O z0 [	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ' ]/ h' x; D: ~$ P o8 n
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE+ k+ w$ b7 e9 M2 a: U	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ; E# T w" F$ ~" O: B: {
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited% D6 N5 a# F" }- @* C	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited 9 O/ x( V0 p6 E# Y/ m6 D4 K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) D" W, t8 K3 T( b	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX % r, @ A- H) z* X/ i: y; a
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE ' R, U4 A6 [; p- x1 N, I) J	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 % g$ F1 ]( D3 t% {. H% N
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 7 s4 E0 [, y r) M; ]) K$ l	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ( M2 {6 P3 n% R- [9 d) z
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5! k- t$ h, H: M* \|4 m	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX" Y" Y ]$ [* F6 R
• 2006 Toyota Tundra ' K( n: n- R# g! K	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT " `0 E$ ?, l5 f( l# P4 c* K2 e% u
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS+ z: S0 C. r; f/ m	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma % m) n u+ g; T l0 f
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL : [+ V5 M- @( ? a	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner + K3 C# D1 B2 u n4 {" n! p; V- V
• 2006 Toyota Prius " K7 W, z+ G# T# q: p	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX " X% _& }/ G! B2 d7 v" }
• 2006 Toyota Camry - A' X6 X* K# T1 K# [( R	• 1995 Toyota Pickup ) ? L- G/ J, }/ Q4 q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring/ a9 K3 l$ _1 o! D4 [	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE ^ k: w# c; G+ @; ]
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma ; {' V9 q$ h! n' ]; g. I6 ?$ S	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE& k: ]; G: J" H* `- O# Y, N
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 1 k8 f3 X0 a# ~; c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton : m* I. @$ v2 i/ ?
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited2 p6 P8 T6 E8 a4 A+ G$ O	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5* o& L' O5 ?; K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner% q6 j# a/ b! Z0 a$ W	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5& {" G2 {0 z0 t
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! W5 _) [% P1 d	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 1 \|3 T2 z" g: G" ?3 x) k
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S * n6 c" m6 ?% M2 Q$ q; G, s+ w5 s: {	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX ) s) v5 D* T+ \| K3 u3 K' y3 }
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited4 `+ s( k# Y# q0 Z. g3 q	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ) m3 g. T: l" b3 ^- x
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE * l: P, s! l& s' \|. x8 O4 H+ j	• 1995 Toyota Tercel }3 O8 [( p$ Y" f+ P; p- R& T
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 [! T0 Y7 P3 \4 X# I4 g	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 8 Y7 y" z' W2 J/ p9 p1 o. g+ u+ m; u
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + L, y3 y4 G5 v. e7 k	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX1 r* {# s- W% m" Q, ~( j6 M& @
• 2005 Toyota Tundra $ B& ` z6 \" I+ R4 ^- a" u# B+ J# t* `	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 9 `& J% u1 ~- ]! h
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS - g, W. V' z4 C, U1 ^# m	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX; G) q$ r) `$ M& ~9 u( r: [
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR53 \0 Q! Q m5 ~: o( w, h	• 1995 Toyota T-100 / }1 V( J% c. G
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited2 c' Y& X: {- N	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 8 t Z; P/ k) H1 e' Z+ }5 l5 S
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL ( E# f+ ^/ Y9 ], ?	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE$ u- S8 ~8 ^* _! p. p- Y) Z) R# v
• 2005 Toyota Camry ; Z3 o) q y" @- _0 q6 O& S1 b	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5. ]% B2 H G# t+ P
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring $ L# H( u5 w$ E% m	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX " x/ Z7 B& ]/ A1 i) {* @
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 6 a- F, Q: r Y: h+ g# G; B	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX) D9 g; S: V8 \" E6 n; g
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE , m. Y3 `6 K! E6 Y' Z	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX( N9 n7 E0 {$ E+ S
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited ; X. N7 `. r6 G# a8 f1 _9 _ ^* U1 L	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5$ A/ F: a- d- J. c% G) @8 Q: [' u. c8 U
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma $ U* i+ X1 m( O8 Q; b	• 1994 Toyota Pickup # T: ^7 `4 w; s3 e
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S : J( I9 d8 }9 o! M* w	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE D2 E; G( Z1 }+ `& G4 ]2 W; r1 Z/ x
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE6 N* w q& O+ y3 ^) Q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 8 ?) \|* k% L' n4 Z. F, s% G' L! w
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited # s) R1 ]' _4 G5 r/ x7 _	• 1994 Toyota T-100 . Q1 j6 z" q8 R2 Y+ i
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 " W8 T+ @# @' e3 c+ O6 W6 n6 S3 m% Y	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR51 t+ a( }% H. A0 s7 I \|4 j
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE; V2 n# o1 h) v0 J0 g. \|& r9 w' t. k	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 8 U0 \|- ~6 X5 H: b p
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 / t2 M: l, l7 w+ O" e* Q	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX U- ~3 m$ @; t
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS) j& j, L9 A! e! d2 S	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 l. r7 L6 W) S
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 2 H. j0 ]; U" G5 j& t k	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE . k* N& V8 ^. m" W$ `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE $ Y5 ^/ L7 S/ ]	• 1994 Toyota Corolla & r: u* _8 S; P4 D$ D7 k+ b/ F1 d
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited- t& F( G" X9 {6 a: X	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton H; P# ]* b& t
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 0 S* R8 M5 U3 v7 u* U	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE" o1 x( x. o" r( ~
• 2005 Toyota Prius , c" i( k4 t0 q7 F7 _) X2 r	• 1993 Toyota Corolla 7 p& `- s2 x" k' p6 u
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE5 G# a9 j) v/ e. h0 {	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton' ? C: Z% {; x5 [
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE / E' i( r3 i; [' \|; q* v' t' I	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR52 s& ?! X7 Q7 T0 s
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited$ E6 G" w3 t% f- v0 B	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX4 W; J' H5 X/ P3 t& h1 L" f
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % D0 q2 t4 p! C	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX; C! t0 j# g; V' N! L2 U
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE* ]7 w4 P+ A+ ?5 Q/ F" \	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX * n9 Q W, P2 k3 B' b7 A2 C9 Y
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE " [/ E. \3 ?! M, C! U	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 f x; K4 ?/ r! M0 F9 a
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE' s: j$ d; @3 C- V; b/ r	• 1993 Toyota T-100 , t: ]8 z! O9 q& @6 C" G
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 8 q. ?' l- H B k/ \	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE( [# Q" i. o G6 ^ o3 m
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited - d4 s1 R0 e/ k4 \	• 1993 Toyota Pickup : f6 R/ \* e9 B3 l
• 2004 Toyota Prius 4 n, U7 F6 [/ Z* `: `	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE / K# C- {! L" T$ X4 x- E, a5 Y
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 1 d! t! q: r( V	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE $ I+ K" S8 y( ~1 q
• 2004 Toyota Tundra * ?. @3 W7 ?( R+ t" ]9 p	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR50 b( o5 W" K5 E* t! ]! O9 n! _
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 6 z$ h: r% w: K% q" Z+ ^2 P	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 + z4 a$ F& Q5 G5 T- @
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited! p) O9 b1 J5 o0 ? x1 L	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE: d& s; H8 U: B
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited \|9 k% j. h) s( b, h	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE 3 B8 b$ z, T( _
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE+ y* w5 f( V) o, ~- T9 D' r; S	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX ! c/ M K9 {* n. O6 `! l
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE $ n( l% `2 ]$ \6 X; Q3 l	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE / p6 l- j* U+ H R& V: L. x
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 5 `- @. d, {6 N8 m2 ]/ q' R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac % U8 O3 \|* l( l" A
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited ' p6 G5 k2 C! t" \9 A* ?; Q	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton: _0 I' G. h: y! Z9 \|# H
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 2 v% d C1 v, t- f- y$ L3 D	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE3 \: ~" {. Z6 Y; o1 \|: g
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner* q! U) _7 Q/ d; f. I	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 6 `7 s6 c" [ h
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S) X- m& R' O. L4 l	• 1992 Toyota MR2 7 s$ e! Y ?& {( X. c2 o- c: i
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 e0 R% g& P0 b0 L) c. x7 Z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 1 H4 S; I. g3 z# W; r# G1 E) d2 ?
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5: U5 p V2 l8 a, t	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX7 F, N# P( l4 [( N) Y+ @
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 6 q" g2 \|# e& M	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac + A, ?, `9 r7 E
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner6 n$ p% I- _& b) ~	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5) B8 w1 _( n$ M; H K
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S5 G! D9 {& J8 i7 o1 G% b) G	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX ( l2 ^" K' d% j+ B
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited & s8 H# T4 f" w# N+ K8 }& `( v	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5% q" g1 ^& a+ X& L# B8 `
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 P9 ?. c' ^' A0 Z7 I! n. r	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser + L D/ Q5 {$ ]6 o% m) j+ t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 , p/ H! C, P' H y4 t( s	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ( d: Q9 n4 Q* a# W6 G
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited* \- v- n% W$ U	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE : F2 I% t+ K, o( \* q2 m2 B
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE, k% G2 M' D. Q. u* F9 l	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / a% V( F& F; B( a6 \|+ ?* J, [$ d
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT , ]6 L Y+ r' }# P' o N' b	• 1991 Toyota Camry 8 @8 O' b, u: a" t
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE ( ^8 Z; h! b5 W) B5 R8 q: V* P	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 C1 L d+ M3 _8 ^: e
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 8 b3 x+ Y/ k7 O. f+ U	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 8 w' ~/ f# f9 ~5 R6 J7 v" Z' `
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ; u1 A; k9 X3 ^0 J3 s& J% ]5 y	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 3 g+ l8 E& s$ M& O
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 9 A% o( n9 p. G0 Y3 z# L# B R	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ( w. C+ [+ I; @3 K- f
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE % ]5 j( i! c/ ]! Y	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR56 W' i6 s0 ]8 J6 A& O7 j
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited, ?7 Y. J. y5 f$ c, U2 W	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 3 H$ W" _! E- s0 R8 V
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE & `. U" ]. M7 G' B! q	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac8 l" Z5 R$ t% j) c" V. V I
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ' T. G5 g# I) U4 f. w4 k	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac2 R4 n; `* g, m8 f9 x/ D
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE $ D- c& m. Z }' s! J	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ' i: R \|9 v8 \! s! T& \|3 [
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE ( g" K! X) O- a5 Y8 v8 }; \	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 F. I1 Q( q% Q
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited) u! b/ g X K: p0 E	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE- g- [! I' V/ N6 I& h; h
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited * U2 t* t2 l& M	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton. g% G& y- r6 {9 T+ h% P8 i
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! }+ {: I1 j' h: S, W	• 1990 Toyota Pickup % R4 } u8 y9 \) N
• 2002 Toyota ECHO - ]3 i8 M- N0 G	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE# [5 v# }! i# M. T
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE% q% A' C# k% k, E) ^	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR58 k5 n7 D/ u$ _3 ?
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited $ G! b' B1 C+ I5 S$ q7 Q: I+ a/ }	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ ) I3 Q9 Q4 b0 E+ s- u" \2 j! S
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE - p" I& m* ^5 B	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT2 U; x2 a1 [! D* I; t% c! F ]
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT . d9 B( a) d; e4 P3 w6 N& S W	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 8 b+ U: V! \|6 } w; l* ^8 d
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 q, ]% i* \2 q# u- C# O: _2 \	• 1990 Toyota Camry 9 H, j9 J4 V [, a8 l" q
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S ' m5 U; f7 o, Y ?2 I9 W& \|4 T* b. o	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST : \|9 N& i, U' g- X2 V& b; d
• 2002 Toyota Highlander ! r q1 \/ R; Q) i	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX 9 G, ^/ [2 G1 x4 N
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " U) o( G' f4 j- g3 a' U2 H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 j8 L5 _9 P9 [; G- k
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 p$ [4 b4 n! E! k	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5; v/ O3 }# l* W" `5 P% V
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( O/ A+ x: ~6 N8 ^	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS / U- X1 p5 o, Y8 @
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE' M/ p7 ~0 q% B! L	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 ~* ^ r" `7 R( T, ]2 \|/ B
• 2002 Toyota Prius j \|2 d6 w& I8 A2 {# ^' D5 K	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton5 R) b0 g. a0 ^6 I5 _
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 5 o- R! Q5 K. @3 G5 Z	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX9 H- i9 m: [+ G. r
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS0 _* I" a+ l( \|	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 5 G3 L2 A: E6 x+ t# {& C
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE0 h4 ]/ L1 @$ M J+ C* h4 E	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac : n# } L; E6 k
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 9 O F% [" c4 f* ~9 a* R! c4 h	• 1990 Toyota Tercel : k. D7 [. v' z& e$ N
• 2002 Toyota Tundra : \|/ A8 e$ [: \|) v) r" @+ O5 j9 ?+ s	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ! C" ?0 b( M7 y
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ; }( J! s* C- k/ f+ l' L	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac * o% G+ m) B: @5 \|0 h; r! U7 C" t- [
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE 3 E( v- v; J' q4 X) Y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger # }$ I& K! {* i) x
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL 5 C: [* l' g0 s$ I# Y7 Q+ q	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base + M* p, c. g2 a( Q- i ^
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited % V% N* E: ?0 u/ n! w	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac" E# x# M+ V: `
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT1 x& m! p4 H' }( W% r, d	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser ! m0 o; d$ w) \3 Q u
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE" n5 l) n9 H+ I+ T	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE: b4 X" m( [; L. H X: u
• 2001 Toyota Prius # J! U4 S0 n9 x! s6 p	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX6 {% {7 I* k1 ]4 Y. B! J
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 8 }$ m# w/ r/ F0 f, L: G$ M( ~, m9 }	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton& \|) x& q" _) ^" \| c
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 4 H# U( n/ h. ^! C; N6 z+ F" \|	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ' D5 k6 y& L4 @, W( g
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE+ x Z9 o1 S$ a6 q* t" i0 l	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX) S q: k% w% o( h4 y. t! w, k. w
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited4 v. \|9 u* ~; G! N1 ?	• 1989 Toyota Camry " p& v8 t1 U/ ~# D
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 8 M4 s$ }* i# J	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 0 g9 z6 b4 d% x0 W
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE + G# y' q X! U0 G9 o	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX4 i) H, n, b7 @& Y8 S9 F! B7 r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE9 z% \# X/ _( u& @; q) M1 g	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 0 d1 F) K) G+ i, c& Z& ?
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 2 z# c) v, A. f- c! F0 X	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5% H7 G' O! u- t' q: K1 O. e1 U4 w
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS 3 R3 J/ B) K+ O. y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger+ J, B- M: r3 b2 r0 R2 U& U
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE/ t6 n! ]1 f/ H! @ \|& ?	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ # A7 P8 q7 q( S7 L" W
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 * A1 x- \& ^4 L, H1 d1 Q5 Z	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel. i; R) N" ~5 `- k3 n- @
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner/ _# ~! `; n/ B2 ]4 O6 {	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX" C# C3 n1 _) r' @2 ^. \
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 1 ?' b: F7 y3 ]6 \|2 q/ s3 S	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 6 }6 ^# X8 B- R2 d% ?; c4 B
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 3 a! ?1 w8 z& [* e	• 1988 Toyota Camry ' e% s5 u1 U" `$ d) D- h+ ~
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner & X+ ~) Z( n0 A7 D% V: w	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ( `/ }1 a" `8 K: i
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR50 J, d% { k- S; Q% i' A( C	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger+ t) F$ R+ w( V# Q+ @
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE# P7 N% Y- A8 _% A7 \# X	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX! c2 s$ Q$ W% @6 W9 d# U v
• 2001 Toyota Highlander + a% F# [% {9 D8 R) } ~6 t4 }	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac7 X) p+ ?, q0 V# V
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited & ]+ R4 b- f8 A. J, N6 [3 a5 l- W	• 1988 Toyota Van DX0 n# ]$ u* w& ^6 ]. m
• 2000 Toyota ECHO ( M$ W$ @) ~8 e2 {# G	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger; H9 T( d! Y; g7 t; U
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ! g9 U4 t. R8 \	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 2 L5 L H* ~7 U! b
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 0 q6 e" g" g5 B	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE - ~. c+ Q6 U; G* \|) E
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE $ w6 s; r! d& t' U, K5 Q	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window5 z3 g- d0 y% P7 s7 U9 z4 Y
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 5 Y% s) e3 x+ m7 H$ \|; d R	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton . z* E, `4 j% P2 U8 O6 B" _: ]. R
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" ?& q# F Y8 Q' q	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser / v8 J6 y* E, A1 v3 A, l
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; e+ H% O4 H! V$ n" V/ S! E, s8 ~	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR53 D8 u9 o* M: f5 [; `6 `
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited' N w7 u/ i) B: G& c	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger& k4 O b8 m( w. {7 r+ U8 I
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE : {& ?7 ^/ m5 ~/ j+ Q	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B ' N6 L! N( Y) `' w
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS6 ^+ Z4 k3 c( c: f& D! n	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ! O8 g6 V) S8 p6 n# \
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE9 C3 ~; x8 e) c* l [0 _) Q T" v	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger / X, L. K4 f% \|& @+ F- s
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 2 O! Q9 U( {) `2 b% {	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 * D' @8 E# V: s2 d9 S0 \|9 Y
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited ' R7 ?5 `+ F+ a z% d: x7 p6 ~& B	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX2 i$ q( y) \* ?
• 2000 Toyota Tundra . x* `- Y4 `. }+ b9 k b/ G: E	• 1988 Toyota Van LE 2 l4 }5 Z+ D6 p4 p1 O
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS+ `- l0 `: c% I3 ~2 C; \9 \|	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 }; m. s, r' }- O% k- b
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE% s- [% ]8 f2 \|" B4 ]1 m	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 0 s. n: q4 Y8 Q5 g9 d0 i
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited, Y9 r/ K2 s* R. e D	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE7 Q2 @, c. I& S
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 9 s6 c k" ~" g7 k( G, g6 v4 ?8 E	• 1987 Toyota Van DX 4 Y) Z& ]- h0 N
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE0 S ?" ^$ s, B5 Y- S; K	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window 4 h! q2 x- K2 L( U" Y! m# S
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR59 r! U4 k$ @. ]	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton 3 X0 M- z6 q: @+ H0 Z& e2 k
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE + z8 ~5 r* S2 h( K* L	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5& a1 @ ^, q- s2 y' a0 E2 B# G
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL * ]# `" c7 W+ q( h; t5 y	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX3 f$ ~6 P' \ y( o) K) \|( H
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner ( K/ M3 V; m$ T5 j2 J- N( m3 t	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 6 B5 o! T9 r& E" W3 C# @1 y
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE: T) j: v5 {* A* I- ]# o7 {	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX / D4 Y+ e: n2 B" H8 \|: \2 r
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 j! l+ N8 ~! [& s( B	• 1987 Toyota Van LE / G$ o) `; U' i' e! a: {6 U
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE2 i2 f3 {- ~( R% s	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel 8 @9 I) B: v! ~* Q/ v# ~
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE ]. D. Q' i1 U* D; W$ s	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX2 W1 K% r* m2 A" y2 A' ~
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 9 P; V8 j) U+ G( s; D	• 1987 Toyota Pickup / X( a% {+ s4 v6 C
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS# y9 ?7 u% w7 W6 F; e	• 1986 Toyota Van LE . V/ Y" S( p6 p! o. X: ^
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 1 D6 {# Z2 K1 V# v	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 o* s$ U1 Q$ ^& \
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" h: z2 Z& p. B& N* @+ t- u	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel4 Q8 d4 V# f9 y4 G* y
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 4 q, X7 \0 M4 ~, e( A: N( u	• 1986 Toyota Van DX; k: a7 m. }! ~0 B0 b# l
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited ; c- h e9 i9 G	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 6 J/ \! J( c5 C$ @ ?; u, G
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE# m9 A0 E# t: u9 \|; O* A	• 1985 Toyota Van 0 o* z7 D) G% c9 j' L$ i. w
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE1 G' C: a' { ^; S& \' k8 e	• 1985 Toyota Van LE % y$ k/ A: I( E
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL 4 x8 U/ J; d" c! L	• 1985 Toyota Van DX) ^: `" Y& g$ [" c- _$ N
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE( H! V$ h8 O; j: h7 d, x9 J5 w% @	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser % z% i$ v, I' f4 ^- m: N. A
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited $ q: T* ~7 V& n% }	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ( d5 ~; a" o! Z+ s) ?( m; K
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE5 C7 x" U* N& e	• 1984 Toyota Supra 9 W( E7 R& u/ J$ f9 B; P0 ^. e
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE9 l$ s2 ?* a X8 K. ~	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX ; g2 K& h7 F* ~* B8 l* r( O0 K
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE * s: z! h+ X7 }1 ^- D$ t	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser Q' X8 E L8 T' L- `, v' B4 r9 f
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited7 Y8 x- r2 Y) I/ ~	• 1984 Toyota Cressida $ g- i3 O3 L% p1 T, q3 q
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS ; X- X$ u5 G# R7 v/ W D: p6 g9 z7 i	• 1984 Toyota Van 9 u% G$ ` M2 t6 d1 K9 P8 z
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE8 l! b& n9 u( A+ F5 e' T! }; g	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE a' b5 `2 v6 _; }
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner # A$ c/ B5 H7 D' T: B	• 1984 Toyota Van LE ( D7 B) ^$ {. H8 A
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE 4 l& {7 o% j3 x1 y" {6 C	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 3 l5 C1 [# d& \. h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX( Y" _6 J8 a& }0 q% O) ]$ G	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5: X9 O; {3 U. }! u) z& }& f& j
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 Y$ g* w: }1 u	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX9 i! w9 F! h) h$ x$ i% `
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE ( T2 `2 E6 Y$ _& Z( E	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE ; B8 j0 @ v& u3 e2 J/ f
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE 0 L: N, E# r% Z6 ]- G, P	• 1983 Toyota Supra 1 ?& x7 s* V; p+ A
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma & _1 h6 a3 X; D: n/ G j	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 y; r9 s x2 m" ]' b& n
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL" t% q' B6 I2 P9 `* U& w6 g$ W	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX * o, F" Y8 M- g/ y; k+ W
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE 1 C% J; Q+ J9 x+ o! R+ m	• 1983 Toyota Cressida - \$ f2 D. I% O3 F
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: M$ D7 n7 q' \|1 o% y2 \ J2 D	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 2 H' L% g" H& q8 ~" A
• 1998 Toyota T-100 / a9 N6 y" U) t5 Q E) P* r' B	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 ]# j% I/ E" i1 A J# i: u/ X( Q
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited$ Q, {" i. c" Q3 ^% w9 h6 ]	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 6 K* H1 T1 a+ _2 J. T
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 8 h) O$ \|: K- G# u. K6 v	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX: y/ c, ?5 w0 c _
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ( A% P/ v5 D0 b) Q9 m V: L	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST / i: r* x' \|4 _ x4 x
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR54 q. s9 E4 ]) D1 I( N	• 1982 Toyota Tercel + l& y% \|4 ]1 @$ G
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX" X: \|9 U8 A$ n; l# Y" W	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5# ~% `; F2 \. B6 V
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma D& l# _, O0 x	• 1981 Toyota Tercel ) K* d* r! M- e6 f' x+ m
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS' ^5 p# ?: P1 X1 O+ a% i- S+ e5 n	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR53 v4 F) t+ [5 A- t
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX3 e3 [4 d. ?; Z2 t	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser + M2 g* e, U5 s& W# {( g/ `5 Z
• 1997 Toyota T-100 . W* q) ^0 `0 t! c	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX( ]# I! U; _5 f. `, }6 l
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited3 s; x! v7 f* R" r	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 0 O( {7 w! m* T- Y* a7 L1 C1 O
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 6 ?) T6 l" V9 w O	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT& y' `! Z @9 h
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5( P. G9 ]# g( {* Y4 o; O' B	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 5 v7 _) I9 D, F% k0 @* m1 k
• 1997 Toyota Corolla , W( S: k% P1 ~( }	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 O6 m! E- g, j4 e: D _; G- Z
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5, i' {4 g4 b" {" d! R	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe ; U9 I( Q- @5 L1 t) a
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL- Q9 c( i7 ^* i, u	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX $ B7 C( N: ?* R" D( u
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE : f/ [6 n& l/ o. b$ I7 ]2 _	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST3 X A, u( a9 x4 i. p4 r! ~2 {
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner % I' i( F) M/ J* N	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury# n6 b! l/ t0 g9 R. f2 }4 i
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 7 Z7 j- \* Y, e, _: k) ?, i
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE5 o6 p" g4 ]' C( v- A- ]. H# t( N	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5# k4 @" `# \7 x1 K. m$ n* G- M
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX, K o' b( L }! J	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe# h' S# l w/ O2 g9 j( A- S
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE g/ U5 d* X# r' P# @# f. r	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR51 y: v1 `" O/ ] l: C% C7 I, [. T3 h
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ Z5 c5 y) @' U4 \|# H3 M% V

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ! u2 h) r: Y+ y9 D, I$ l

" _' Q% z9 ?3 F) K$ ~( w如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多： R$ I1 v' S5 R
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE0 b/ P7 q$ ~+ }1 j+ c' m% g
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE! U; N6 ^; }# `6 N
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
5 s4 |- @1 g& T( iApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 6 s' M" i& N; @+ n+ x2 t

  `8 u, u5 q* k/ N0 d$ T) x3 u; I' M# ]/ |! w% n+ y
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
6 I$ @+ ^1 s3 v( u5 k- w+ A; k5 [; ~/ H+ T1 V  L+ B/ V
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
' b  s9 M) X) q. `9 j0 H0 ^- ~* o4 Y# i& \+ E3 T* d2 e! ^
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
$ h5 E, F4 N* H2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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