說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 ' T1 Z) r$ }/ }/ b! x
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
4 J9 {# t5 H7 H" I楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
! f) l9 ]3 i9 T8 J% ?# |楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 . @1 {. j( z, k) L' ]
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE; P P/ u) e! P) n/ n- q2 g	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE / Z0 @( `: X8 L9 b$ ~2 U
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 6 u/ W9 \. h3 X: q0 J& F	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE ( s8 N2 ^7 N& b; W
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE & d' E9 [1 `$ r E# U	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 3 ]+ a x+ i% }+ N- A
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 7 F: \7 s4 L" F6 \|" \	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ A: ~8 C3 a: ]) \
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE# R8 T s& D8 ?: N	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE j8 f) p7 U& [/ f
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE, i4 p- z9 O/ R	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX: B; w4 ?! H Z0 O- X5 E
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid ) Q4 Y/ `8 d5 @+ Y	• 1996 Toyota Corolla r$ g- ]( _" g2 N- A# u
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited) _% S1 A* N7 K$ B! d" }" m	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 1 \+ \; ?" ~ \|. Z) m" v7 ]0 ~0 h
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE ( a* q; v; O/ B/ D3 Y	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE8 M3 D* d" l8 j; P `
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE, y4 @& t8 g- D: ^% ^7 A- b2 b1 m	• 1996 Toyota T-100 1 g8 I5 P0 U8 g* M* b- D
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE' c: `/ j5 t, c, J! N) \|	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST " ^# { J, ]+ ?$ e, j/ \|0 J+ o0 Q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited n4 E- I! \|1 n& A3 w! m2 A	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited ( _- \/ \|3 a9 n% e' v( S
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& C% t$ T* s \. }	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX6 S5 g% M7 \( q4 B1 x2 s
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE% d9 T3 C/ v L" r1 M	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 4 j7 L8 w! H' i2 Z
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 1 t2 K7 T/ i C4 h$ o- G; A	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 3 a. C7 Z. S2 X! M! S2 F" h$ u
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR56 r: ]5 A3 [) f( R2 n0 M% {	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX' c2 w2 n/ ?+ t( S! \|* S- U; G
• 2006 Toyota Tundra - I8 ~/ n+ T8 u	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT ' g. r! H$ e7 w
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS. P1 {# m, {4 f: V* S4 ?8 Z	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma / y& o' W! `! r) i0 q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL& ?' n% N! w5 ~8 ~; }	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - t" e. v: U7 H/ z6 C! P
• 2006 Toyota Prius 3 U: F5 A. Y; U! u	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX. S6 }( D% [) C# @
• 2006 Toyota Camry 9 Q0 j$ T% H6 ?2 F4 O# }	• 1995 Toyota Pickup ! @" i" z& X* J! S' F4 g
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring 8 N, x u# d" P8 g: j" X# \	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE6 _ ~* q8 X2 H" G4 y5 w$ Y
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 9 t& b* B) }- @: g: U	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ( }$ h6 D5 n( d( `* \|' n
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE& y$ c0 w2 O/ l' e4 P	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton7 r+ e/ S& O/ P! c9 Y" D# V/ x
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited & c+ V( }. z2 {" X% _+ `' C, v	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR51 ^" a4 f7 ?) o1 l3 v. e, U
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner 7 B- v0 t$ }) M& G	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR54 z+ l7 I- u" Y3 x
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 8 a2 w0 ]+ P/ L& a# Z	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX( ?6 {. G+ N2 ?2 Q4 N
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 4 C/ G3 q; t; Q! ?	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX1 \- k ?" D& w5 {( d( O
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited : ~, U9 z) P R+ j	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5" M5 E9 O& @; o! P* C( L1 k- r
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE , g& t5 D. E. K3 u	• 1995 Toyota Tercel ! m& I9 k p" b" n$ U3 s
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 n5 w$ M! P- Y7 x7 j/ z0 T	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 2 L+ i' E: W( h" S, A! [
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner+ W* i' }3 W' B t$ C6 U3 G1 R	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX2 E c' Y& w% w6 ^
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 0 y) f" d) P9 [1 r	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 8 D) `) i e7 b; e% ~. F j
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS+ W8 ]0 q7 [0 M) \|, ~3 {	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX9 M. B0 J- X$ n6 r
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5% r% h# B$ I6 P5 M1 l	• 1995 Toyota T-100 , \| H/ H. g5 K4 L1 }
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited ; s, v6 ^' l/ U: s" {	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 5 O% \+ f H: Q) w
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL - R/ s/ b1 ?; c$ v. y& K; w	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE . j" ? \' b2 e' h& Q3 {
• 2005 Toyota Camry T2 a% [7 b" A: t4 j* H7 i; `	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR50 ~: V' r# t! d7 ^1 j" ] ~' {
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring3 X. Z; G& j8 F' P	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX" b% \|7 e1 R, r$ J
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE * \7 V. Z* U6 l. \: t! ?" R M	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX* {9 I: Y/ E) i' I
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE1 L& A1 v5 Y0 E: e2 W9 N: J/ M Z9 Y	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX, D8 z( k( E4 y& D: T# T
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited: }; \$ I. I3 Z* n# u	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR52 o& T! h# n( F+ p1 U9 R1 r) E2 s5 D
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma - L+ C1 A6 {/ V/ s Z	• 1994 Toyota Pickup # g$ e5 c/ C+ T- H8 S
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S: b* r+ T) K) s0 j+ z1 G) k3 i7 e	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 1 g* Q+ H, m8 ^- J: ~& w- B
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE ' k) I; V5 r, T6 d	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE& w$ W0 A6 S% m# w2 E
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited1 z8 B5 ]+ c1 p7 _1 z7 ~: m7 J+ e	• 1994 Toyota T-100 8 O& {- g- J8 P) g- m \|
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR59 x' h9 J1 v' Z: o7 [+ @	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 z' y( `" `. {8 f& L$ p
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE+ j7 z# K) a4 S$ h	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE# V- J' H6 L L1 Q
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 / d) ]! t" D) F* Z/ ~6 g; a/ t; }+ i	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX9 D+ b5 n. d$ R `' x5 c3 \|
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS9 s; w G [5 k& B' N. B3 c	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5" t! G9 ^' g' d: b/ I
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE% ?. C/ J: V5 V' \|	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE + t1 j$ S4 P8 u" d& d2 `6 N
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 9 R+ M' J7 Q- m: k* U+ \|7 c	• 1994 Toyota Corolla % H. g/ x+ g# z& `' ?$ m5 I: y4 R
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 1 C) A) }! P8 b- n" a" b2 n	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 5 P# }, F1 _5 ?; l2 j, w
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ! b( @8 ?+ c/ }8 s! ^; w	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE& i" z4 t. d4 o$ K @& ~
• 2005 Toyota Prius 1 M$ A" I/ V7 x2 [4 q4 N	• 1993 Toyota Corolla - k1 l$ t; L+ \) x' \|
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE7 W4 Y: R Z, ?8 f	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton6 b* x( Z" e% t {* X
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE3 V9 \6 Y* H- k6 M. l3 P! g	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR57 I- \ w0 n& s; ]! s
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited6 D8 d3 O* ], k F- ~. ]/ U	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX- ~& u* i& q4 {3 Z4 X3 X) K3 t
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ; e2 I/ R% {, D4 T7 ~& o	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX ; l. Q: R* G9 U- O6 b
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE' u* R+ x- ~$ _	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX& w: e' }5 h' s9 u
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE & c B. f; v. u9 g	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser * l8 B. n [5 k p$ k) s8 W+ U
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE* [( a9 [3 Y" s: y	• 1993 Toyota T-100 0 E- c. v$ M+ ?' g5 X. G t/ J% Z
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE ) D; g( w8 k, [& B	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE " A0 ^& C* \ M2 U" f. I
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited/ \|% P+ _+ r; [) o8 }5 r	• 1993 Toyota Pickup ! f8 M3 o) ^" m2 y" S2 ^4 o* m
• 2004 Toyota Prius ; H F. x& U# N5 Z	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 3 u2 M- W6 N7 \|* l$ N, `7 D
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ( X- W& Z6 b6 q+ b8 G6 j! }6 v' _	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE ' j4 t0 K; R/ g6 j! z! o4 x5 B
• 2004 Toyota Tundra " g+ \|5 c/ E: e: y$ B. p	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 ^) t, v3 j" W# T8 n8 S* o
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE4 N4 i; \' ~, z& o) y- F3 \|; c" r	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5( Y& P( Z/ ], R/ c
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 \4 r1 T4 \|7 q2 N: S1 [5 Y6 L	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE9 u+ M; t& F" B8 p! o: v
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited1 O* w9 D6 `3 _* \|	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE/ }; K, Z9 D! ]
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE, T, T2 W- }6 [0 u" b( \|! o	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX j- k5 d% n4 k4 l& h$ D& v) U
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE . k- M. Z" ?% Q, A9 L	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE$ l9 R* I7 d* d8 ^ `8 R: z
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE1 k O3 z" C. M6 e: S R	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac# I, ]1 X2 Y1 o1 h; r
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited$ s. O6 i. _) T6 j4 b	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton) Y; S/ ^* V, W0 k
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 5 I1 {; w" S3 q b; V% c2 }	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE 9 m! o9 N" D% i& \|# O
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner m8 o1 Q7 R$ w+ ^9 I% y! S; h4 r- y	• 1992 Toyota Corolla # j, s5 c+ i2 J1 \! Z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S ; l2 N8 Q0 [* f8 s	• 1992 Toyota MR2 * l/ y$ D( Z% M( z/ E/ e
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner! g; k5 P0 N! E) J1 J	• 1992 Toyota Pickup , a; H' ]3 N: Z* n- B
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( o% \|$ b8 U: I/ @% z	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX * x5 h ~( O, T6 a* i
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS0 n/ _! S" Y8 U `" C+ G, f* I* Z" i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac , N8 r. ?5 G) `1 R) m
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner" U1 ?$ S' k; F	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 , N' e2 j# V6 E0 x
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S: i/ \ ]( l: Y8 r$ r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 4 E( v3 n! m5 }) g
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited 3 V4 j! D# q3 N4 R	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR52 Y/ l9 L5 f$ {) c# x X7 ?1 P
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner. l- t' P0 @: u+ k0 m: R	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser . F$ `) Y5 Z% K6 s" B) ~
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 7 m3 v/ I* D: B9 O1 e	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 7 Z+ X. x& ~& O( {9 E( \|' O3 R
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited1 B6 D+ \|3 k- V+ b' ]. \" k# t* F	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE& a4 ?" S) u# H2 v; B2 X
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE . Q( P& }0 S. I. D0 w	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' c0 I% m( F6 s# s0 i: e1 ?
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT6 j7 ^$ \|! C! c \|	• 1991 Toyota Camry $ W' f% Y+ `1 \7 k
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 1 A8 R5 n1 J& I' B- w" u	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser $ Y7 J1 y; k: O: v: a, W: W( h) w
• 2003 Toyota Highlander $ q' x4 H* h0 U$ k- {	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ! y- d+ B% x! G+ \|& `$ A' w2 Z
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 7 d/ w& X* b/ y. ]	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX( D; D- C4 U7 S+ \0 r* ~3 z
• 2003 Toyota Tundra + x i+ l3 W6 g }# _' ^2 ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 3 J# X/ n- P0 A" ]4 u
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE * j( ]5 g9 ~! D	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 J- q4 D4 k+ F' ?& ]
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 T* }) X% n$ w6 w4 P	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ( H- ^; }/ r$ f! r' V
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 8 ~5 Q8 o& b% w3 C% h& \	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 7 p2 l$ w! }4 J, B( F
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5) b6 g+ V5 z- V$ a) U; {" i- o	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac% F- \" i$ [3 A& b1 R, x
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE % x: W; _9 }3 J/ t3 I d3 ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof- A; G- A6 p4 F4 C0 r6 d
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE1 i" C8 u5 {$ u) D, p1 M- k	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 2 N( ^/ D/ A9 v5 [3 X0 ~* r3 t
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited / x) U l& v2 V. t	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE/ l: Z+ M( {/ y- n6 k
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited; r( O" ]- K" f- b% ^; L0 H	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 4 d. u n# }) G1 h4 F( g
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited . \' a4 y( z; t v	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 3 K7 w' O* V E- j V; A' n" Q& R- I
• 2002 Toyota ECHO & \|( H5 ?/ ], a4 a( S6 e	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE " c1 K l- Z/ F- V! l4 b3 x
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 3 t& {% O" ^0 H# Y0 m	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5. z _3 F9 l4 C& F2 i9 p' O; k5 t1 b
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 6 \|" i+ Q" Y1 R% J2 E	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ% w7 ^0 q9 i0 D
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE' V' Q9 i9 \|+ d	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT: T3 x9 ~/ F/ o1 L: l" k" B6 h6 _
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT ' Z G1 G- c7 s% n$ u& l& w/ }4 ~	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base) H6 E) h2 {+ G# O+ t; U
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner- }/ @& d; g V7 g9 [	• 1990 Toyota Camry 5 ?2 z+ k& e) O. }; ~5 V
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S " J; g& r5 `5 w2 ~	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST * m# [# ]2 z! A# K/ [" G4 h2 j) r
• 2002 Toyota Highlander $ y2 c- }1 U3 J! [	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX : ]" p h H0 S/ j, s$ @
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner " E! S- o T' ]' C9 E; f	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 5 W2 E7 @- R$ `* m8 K) a' B6 p
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5, n) j% G+ D; ^; k6 Q0 `& x4 m7 }	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ D- w* u. G# U- T7 Q- ]
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR53 j. v$ u/ g4 a1 l	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS 0 D: I& \|3 `; \* I+ {% r0 ]
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE' K; N6 I9 L5 v	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 b3 G! o a; U% j
• 2002 Toyota Prius $ w) ]* c0 S/ W: v	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 8 X ^' V) [/ Q: e
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5" A. P, L% V9 ?8 b	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX0 p+ E9 T( I1 t) F
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 2 Z; t4 o' r% I1 _1 x( j	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac - c" E+ ^! B+ G- `
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE& N" C8 Z; x5 i* C- o$ V( i# `& [# @: ^	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac) ^# D4 ^8 n; F7 y% D, C4 \|
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ' }. {! f0 o5 L: t1 W+ X. i. v- s: a	• 1990 Toyota Tercel ) P3 p8 P% U4 s& b0 [( h ~
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 6 l. Y @1 Z! D2 b: \	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 e( r7 P# } Q: k1 {
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE* O/ k, H9 F# i4 e' _& c7 T0 P" I	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 6 [$ e' R1 b j7 k
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE : [3 U ?$ w4 F( m2 X5 Y' _	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger - _8 \7 ]. f6 D7 ~3 e& O. u
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL ! b* M' H: @& \|# b1 i" Y1 \. [	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base+ E0 N6 G9 d! q" k/ \, g8 V5 ` }0 N
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited ( f* X7 J1 j( x6 t5 ]- Q8 J( q	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac- O4 y C: q" R, I& x/ X& \6 H P
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT2 ^2 s1 v; s2 M4 `! y2 r; r" V	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser # J8 b, h5 s, y6 l2 U
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE : q6 H# z0 k: I4 {1 B" a	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE1 I' U% S1 y4 T. ^0 S& e
• 2001 Toyota Prius I) U) }9 p) \|% k7 b	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX ; a. J0 Q. c- G h/ n' _8 B0 }
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma # I$ Q+ E5 @2 O3 ~. Q$ E& Q	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton. Y8 t. E) s, E! }
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ; t$ H; H8 a: v/ a	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger , F- ~% I' Z( M8 R# X
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE ) F, \|: T& g9 N% K+ `# f0 k	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX$ k/ }* A) u) N) w3 \% p8 q
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited1 F) T& c0 }7 d7 x	• 1989 Toyota Camry ! R* p9 U" s0 W/ j$ C: I1 U7 J. [' ~# W
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 Z* R) O! ~0 a. m	• 1989 Toyota Tercel & t; O/ O# i! K: ]4 I4 \
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE9 M9 X5 v+ b+ I! r	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX2 r; u! }) Z& j' X5 v+ B2 T
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 9 f9 S" k. A/ I- H; ^* ^$ E" B	• 1989 Toyota Pickup # ^5 }7 k8 h7 R- l" Z3 [$ j% X
• 2001 Toyota ECHO ; ^2 u7 s$ s* W' c7 _, q9 J	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5: x8 o+ o5 v1 W$ y7 X4 P
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS( [3 {* x8 a. T	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 0 h6 K1 ^, C) _: H5 \
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 3 P) ?' U+ s l: y9 K	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ5 Y, S8 Y0 F L3 I
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5' x( [5 b9 j8 ~/ s, i' {	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel - V% y- w: y- L9 x, ?( b# b
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ' V$ ^# P: x: j: P' y. Q	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 2 ~' r/ U3 F& l0 x
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS$ U* V* p0 p! z4 p* U7 J6 ]	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ # S% T; w" @+ R9 t7 N
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S2 }+ F& e- n" I" ]% D8 s- [	• 1988 Toyota Camry + G2 l$ b0 d: X: C: ?- ^0 D
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* g. X) s, N- X7 Y5 n3 G	• 1988 Toyota Pickup - n9 @# ^' h4 L' X4 C: m0 m! O* S! j
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR50 R2 ~$ \|7 m5 U	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger " X) P6 Z# U2 V8 o/ M+ M
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE9 o* x( M8 n5 B* Z0 \+ e1 U) d& L9 y, o	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX * W: i3 i7 l1 j$ h* i) F4 ^1 W. h
• 2001 Toyota Highlander 1 [7 q0 t$ R$ G$ n! j	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac. ^9 z8 m1 u; S, \|" p3 L: u; W
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 1 o' _7 G9 t) ]* J5 q2 I) `	• 1988 Toyota Van DX , i7 Q$ v+ s) \|) Z3 @& O
• 2000 Toyota ECHO & `2 Z9 u3 R/ m3 ]	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger 1 F3 \|5 o7 M( S1 \0 L' W
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma & B5 d. y1 t. o# P) L$ a' i" T8 s	• 1988 Toyota Tercel + w- ]( u P/ b E' v
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT. [0 Q. L/ u( y	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE / m. d# a+ T; I' r" \
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE $ g2 @" J4 L2 W1 G$ p, e6 O) h	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window, ]. k, Y N- O1 q& g5 m
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 6 k+ _/ [, u9 d1 R m# U- U	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton5 P& o: M+ `( H' y4 Z9 }
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: w) h1 V" V7 }/ q6 Q	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 X; b+ `) i1 F( P8 y, F
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR54 N% U3 a% O' k1 M5 W; p7 }	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; ]( h: D) i* s! K( f6 L1 c% i3 H
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited ' T2 F9 j# J( E	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 1 N* b4 x# s: E, [6 m* g. _
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 5 s$ ]/ A7 M3 \	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B5 A; O+ c( O# {" g2 x% \
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS - g+ Z, V1 s3 R	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac3 E( D9 D4 ]. e( y- s' W+ h W
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE; u7 U, C6 c z' X9 f! [& b, W+ m	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger / p$ P9 j) R$ y: b: @3 X
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 4 W: L ~4 x9 }2 h3 z5 K V) m. K	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 / W, ~7 W9 D4 I) o. A
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited + j7 b. x# _5 S3 n	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 0 I1 \|: V2 G0 l0 Q3 T
• 2000 Toyota Tundra - n1 a& J- X- ?2 H	• 1988 Toyota Van LE3 R; i M, y) s; I
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ; }; v& H& W5 @3 c9 q	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 g* f) e+ W W9 B
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 8 U6 V3 S) y/ r; }( ^	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 " O* f! L5 T8 q& m
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited X5 @- A2 M! o9 X ?5 I	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE+ O/ H; L3 g) q; t K3 {7 G
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ( P* I, H4 H8 W6 ~0 w; u' U+ a	• 1987 Toyota Van DX ) J$ V7 A# Z# A+ @* t
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE5 U9 t3 h# [; d) \|	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window& M; I2 }5 \( ?+ ^! A! L, d
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 3 L9 L; y6 E& \|& Y	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton # ~* y6 h* u W. h: N
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE& B0 c; `# H6 C" p	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ @1 R9 i* K' i' o( ^: K1 N6 h ^- \|
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 0 y% [, E, S0 Y; E% _9 \) w	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX" d( R; K; o# F
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 7 Y% s# \|4 m$ ?# l	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ( i" S4 r/ K1 h+ u
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE: i- ]) H( r; M8 n" ]: d* X	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX& `8 g* S1 s1 p0 Z2 B
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5* I! o$ W" K$ L	• 1987 Toyota Van LE! d( w& L7 K) I7 `, a0 Z
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE3 c" ]5 \5 w K" A& _2 I	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel $ Q4 B' L. K) v( q1 U
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE+ c% Q" s6 k; f	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX * V8 T2 p# T. g- p' s5 C+ P1 U% f
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma . r0 c; d! j. S* E2 i, l	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ' Q: i" E5 x/ \|* X1 r
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS& \|: F+ B3 V+ C0 r3 N' L2 r	• 1986 Toyota Van LE7 j4 I0 c' W' F! w
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE ' P G) k$ M4 U3 Q. K. ?: [9 \	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser # f( F+ m; x& g4 A9 a
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner + q- t. v6 t$ f+ l& K: L9 e	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel' \|4 J0 d+ N7 y6 h
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 8 ?& ]! B {: k: g; S) }0 ^. b- ^1 o	• 1986 Toyota Van DX & H; z) K- z! R) `
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited5 O" R- K8 Y" v& O, ~/ I' ~	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window0 { o+ a: D2 ]% W+ s4 k0 j
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE ' o3 m3 ]; Z! u+ n8 `	• 1985 Toyota Van " u. Z* v: J' ]& D; }& _
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 7 h- [- o# G1 ~% l! i$ h, t	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 5 f* `% s+ d. C" j
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL2 ]2 s8 J( A4 P	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 6 R5 J9 f* Z9 l2 J+ v1 Q4 C8 t
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE. X3 I, c3 `! {0 y8 i( H+ ]6 z	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 g$ @9 s% E) \. D9 I9 I, }
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited & Z6 T, \| A6 K" w	• 1984 Toyota Van DX9 g7 G1 b3 \) Q) S1 ?# K& c
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE # I; P& ~$ x8 U/ L' a	• 1984 Toyota Supra ; \/ ~6 _) u- }) a$ R X' Q
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE 7 f% T6 t: b5 Q) E9 v4 [- B	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX # q9 ?; i& V5 W& x. P
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE2 v1 N- x+ G2 s' D$ x+ L: }	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser ' x2 B) V/ `4 Q( j( B
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ! z2 g. G( z0 {/ S/ O	• 1984 Toyota Cressida " O1 }, x0 w! I
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS) \5 W. N& y* ~( m p2 U	• 1984 Toyota Van 5 @4 \|$ J" F, {) s) l6 O
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 9 u3 T9 A9 j0 m7 V: h% R2 F$ m( C	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE . ~/ a! V. Y' T5 \|0 R! Y+ q( a
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner ; E2 q Z3 \|- j: P* c7 O	• 1984 Toyota Van LE; h( l" h' ^ o" ]7 {3 F9 e! @
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE% ~5 ]6 i" [' }' u	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE. E* K* D9 ?8 P' J
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX8 ~9 [) U& T8 \|! x	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR56 ]* ^/ K, J" c1 d
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - W' B! u) z- s2 x	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE! V4 u$ H. M" x. P	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 0 v: ]: {- W- o+ ~5 o3 T
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE1 C/ d# z. ?9 U	• 1983 Toyota Supra ) [7 e2 Y9 m5 N/ O
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 1 T+ O- c+ z* g1 ~6 \ ~5 r9 y	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ! }& [ Y+ X! T4 D# B) I- U
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL$ V0 ?6 b' C* F Y5 ~	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX ' k2 R; r5 C7 U/ \3 \6 q0 M
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE t9 N8 N, A7 _0 V# V. Z	• 1983 Toyota Cressida / R0 Z0 A7 T* L2 f& @8 p3 t
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner9 b$ U6 Y- S4 [2 p	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 3 k. V2 h( b. X1 Y
• 1998 Toyota T-100 " [: c9 q x4 G* g, k1 H	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 m0 x4 ^' b. m7 ~1 r
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited % `+ x' G2 \|0 H$ \. W* q	• 1982 Toyota Cressida $ U4 R6 H! d) O @; _! P
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE + j& \|3 R' E% x# A% ^, G/ u/ L	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX + s# Z2 w) Z9 U) i* \& ]: _4 D
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 & G x V V, K! M6 m& e	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST3 t5 M7 N) g6 n) ~5 u/ c
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR54 j+ B# T4 `0 Y; x7 v# w6 R	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 9 R5 e, U- g; Q; V1 U& p
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX* B6 I% X& G p. m	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR59 Z- q- c2 }+ q4 x
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma . g4 ~; y( t* w6 u	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 1 A0 \|& E% `6 ~
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS8 k+ S% R, W% I- `3 T	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5# m7 s$ a; p2 R. x1 i4 z
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX- p. u% i+ \7 J" I9 Q: [2 z	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 i3 i& d8 H; @" y' F3 [
• 1997 Toyota T-100 - ~/ Y0 o/ D0 K+ Q	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX * g% ?, M+ ~' ^) z: f" L ~) M
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited7 q6 S8 d \|1 p1 X8 b y; F	• 1981 Toyota Cressida / l7 H6 f- [! P
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE# N$ G" O: F9 j" t* O9 T; \|	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT 3 @; p3 \7 t( j# G
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR59 J; u2 I5 z) b9 Y	• 1980 Toyota Corolla & t C' X' g' V" z
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ( H1 Q0 \$ w- Q* {; R5 B: z	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser # D3 k3 j4 g" b9 ~. K) i
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5' s/ N0 u* A s/ ?	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe, G6 Y0 q) P6 j& r% m2 h7 w
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL8 d. t+ i2 [2 `( _; x	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX: P: C* o" r- a
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE/ p x m; _& C' F! i" c4 `	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST4 W& ^; u. K0 \2 ^" M3 h) U
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner C+ v7 j( Z* @: c3 @4 O2 e, k; I	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury6 Z5 [% y6 M6 `" h3 O+ m7 T
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE + t3 ?$ E& t+ ?& _6 R" O3 S	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 2 }/ h7 S4 \; b8 Q) [7 l
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE6 u$ X, Z; [+ Z	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR51 I' w* B( W/ C: _/ q+ B
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 2 ]/ h+ ?4 ?5 W5 r1 t5 g	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe - Z, x% X& v; n, }8 r9 u
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE 1 o! h9 S& ]" A3 D	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR51 u& r/ h7 O E6 L3 R: ?0 p; w
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % p/ l/ S- b* Q

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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* ~7 \' V9 T# |( [* d# x如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
) {! d5 g o& Q! WToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
$ \& g1 T9 r& T$ t% O1 |( c* |• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
- d& i+ O! X" Y m$ i1 G&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
4 B- M+ ~1 j3 F, x' S) h2 {* \: NApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。3 E! u! y# ^% I

( o- A% V2 }) q% _由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
& E9 a% b8 a- {1 J0 U6 T, v- p4 K+ @2 a2 s7 @# W0 X, P  d
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；# _" l& f3 B2 f4 V9 B  w" N
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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