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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表 3 Z- h4 R- `8 W
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当然,但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文,pose还是很妥当的。5 x9 ]( C0 j7 F% \6 T! K% `

$ J. T. D1 {6 N  N: G8 |) T+ G; G其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?

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2 c1 j) X9 R& j: \7 h. l* |I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:# ?, X" C' x* F
what about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
先感谢一下同学们,我稍后再来仔细学习
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
% \! Z- u4 Z1 O. A' p' m8 vThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :* D' t5 Q  }2 R! q
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones., y- P9 }* ]2 R) B4 h" F1 G

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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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+ y, ^+ m) ^# q3 I; B4 nI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
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# B$ v3 X, G6 R8 w  Dcliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!, v! K# n# d: q/ h5 `$ N1 s4 h
but not rouma at all.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 : z( W* t. E# i7 r' I  Q( b
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; h- {: K2 h# l9 s  f: o2 t$ qhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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Thanks. I will check it later on.
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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.
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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表   I% A. B' M4 o# z8 h) B  D6 @
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
7 E/ s0 p  _- ]impudence  厚颜无耻   可以吗?

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虽然和肉麻关系不大,很喜欢这个词!厚颜无耻!这么对应一下:
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bold faced 不要脸的!) j- W0 b; j* [4 D& U" t' [0 r
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寻求“臭不要脸”的英文ing..
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:27 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
; {7 d/ B/ P( [0 ~$ N. p2 R; ^what about clichéd ...

2 ^$ g$ W" j- A; ]对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy
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这个cliched,我就遵循下面竹帘这个french frog的说法了。
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原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表 / f5 n' j% ~4 N  }5 h1 d
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...
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文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
+ n/ \0 I  z1 L, M$ Z& YThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
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2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...

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请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
) D0 R8 @5 Q2 q) K# F, a看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表 % ]* x4 b8 P2 r3 v2 p" w
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看

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严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.

* p7 R. `5 B# i1 F% Vschmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表   ?/ Q! }. N" Q( D  F8 E
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表 ( v2 a% `; f7 k+ \* A# j
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
mushy 7 w6 v; K. ^5 q- a1 A0 M1 K& \
overly romantic and sentimental
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!

( `4 r! J4 p' b她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.3 Y% q# g$ [0 D: Z  f) y: Q# \
她说,肉麻是和LOVE有关的,MUSHY.
+ V1 Y4 s! Z* ^/ u4 p, R如果你还不明白的话,我让她来回这个帖子。
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...
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严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!* ^' S0 Y5 x6 P  r0 u) J# ]
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我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?7 R% _- J0 ?9 P1 D: ]6 l+ d
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 17:29 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 意难平 于 2008-1-15 14:16 发表
* ^2 d2 u1 W/ B* n! CThought I'd throw in my 2 cents!
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2 E0 [( l3 F9 {3 v( m. G" ccheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...

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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 + ^6 h( i1 S( N' I8 \- c; d
用google字典翻译
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没谱的不行不行的

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I agree with this one.
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: }4 m2 v7 T. C% W) f- Z" \4 qOne joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 & j6 J  s: N8 @  y: |1 v6 w
用google字典翻译
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没谱的不行不行的
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某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.7 ]: `! z+ x4 _+ {- ^6 d! S
港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"
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发表于 2008-1-17 09:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表 6 A' y. q. m7 W' Y
wow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...
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what a bi*ch! like you have slept with every married american man and know exactly what they think about their wives.
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原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表
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( s5 U: j. H' [, `. X3 u6 m鹈鹕灌顶!这太绝了!!!
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哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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