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瓦窑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 11:10

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这个人真是奇才，不是奇在有这么多小动作，而是他能这么赤裸裸地做这些小动作

BLACKBIRD · 发表于 2008-7-10 11:12

This is my first time to address here. XIAO FENG CAN YUE wants me to tell guys how to drive a turbo car correctly so that everybody can benefit it and identify who is correct and who is a laity but which made so much boring noise. Please see the attachment that tells you how to deal with a TURBO. Do pay attention to BOOST R.M.P, PEAK TOUQUE R.M.P, and PEAK HORSEPOWER R.M.P.

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‘Frequently Asked’0 R+ L. P7 z6 `% x
‘Turbo Questions’(In no particular order)
Your turbocharger is engineered to match the specific requirements of the engine it is
fitted to. Each is dependent on the other to maintain optimum performance. Don't
think of the turbo as a bolt-on accessory, rather as an integral part of the engine. The
turbo's requirements are similar to the engine’s. It is, therefore, essential that
scheduled servicing, using good quality oils and parts, is central to caring for your
turbo.
In many instances Berrima Diesel receive turbochargers which have been
misdiagnosed as having a turbo problem, when actually the turbo is not at fault.
Incorrect fault finding is often caused by a lack of product knowledge. Many
contributory items around the engine bay can trick the unsuspecting into believing the
turbo is the culprit, when in fact it is not. Unfortunately, if the real problem is not
diagnosed before a replacement turbocharger is fitted, the problem still exists!
We have a saying at Berrima Diesel which goes, "Turbos don't die. They’re killed". A
turbo can be killed in many ways.
Foreign object damage results in either the air intake "compressor wheel" or exhaust
"turbine" wheel being damaged. The former is often caused by someone accidentally
leaving a nut or other foreign body in the air induction hoses. Please be extremely
careful if going to an aftermarket air-filter. Genuine is bests there! In the latter case,
this may be caused by part of an engine component, such as a piece of valve, exiting
the engine in rather a hurry! In both cases it results in severe turbocharger damage
instantly.
Turbochargers are simple in operation, but manufactured to precise tolerances as fine
as 1/ 1,000,000 of an inch. The turbo unit manufacturers balance and test every single
turbocharger many times, including final assembly. The balancing methods and
procedures are unique. Without them, no turbocharger can be balanced to the ultrafine
tolerances required for today’s high speed turbos. It is now common for
turbochargers to spin up to 150,000 rpm +.
That’s approximately 35 times faster than most diesel engines rev at the red line!
Sophisticated machinery and highly trained factory staff ensure that the highest
standards are always maintained.
Useful tips when driving any turbocharged engine, whether it be petrol or diesel, are
to always allow the engine to warm-up fully, until the water temperature gauge
reaches normal, before full throttle is used. Try to plan the end of your journey
sympathetically. Don’t use full throttle or allow the engine to labour during the last
few miles. This will prevent excessive heat build-up within the turbo when the engine
is turned off. Also, when coming to a standstill, try to leave the engine idling for a
few extra seconds to allow the heat to decrease. No need for a timer though, just undo
your seat belt first and then turn off the engine. Never rev the engine just as the
ignition is turned off. Remember the turbo spins at a far greater speed then the
engine, but is lubricated with engine oil. Once the engine stops the oil supply ceases
within a few seconds. In reality, none of the above traits will cause a turbocharger to
fail immediately, but repeatedly over a long period, they could reduce the life of your
turbocharger.
If it becomes necessary to seek advice about a turbocharger or a turbo related
problem, always rely on a professional. Berrima Diesel, together with DTS
turbochargers, are Australia’s leading turbo specialist, and are acknowledged as one
of the most experienced turbo installation companies in the world. We can advise
customers with turbocharged 4WD’s on a wide variety of questions and issues
relating to owning and running a turbo car.
It cannot be stressed too much how important it is, when purchasing turbocharger
system, always to choose the top brand name -Berrima Diesel. Consider this. As with
so many things in life, quality costs, and there are sometimes cheaper turbos for sale.
Without the safeguard of using a Berrima Diesel turbocharger, you run a serious risk
that your short-term saving may turn out to be a long-term nightmare.
What is 'Boost'?
Boost is a term used to describe the increase in pressure, provided by the
turbocharger, to the volume of air, entering the engine. This pressure is expressed in
a number of different units, (BAR, ATM, Kpa, P.S.I.), but they all mean the same
thing. For purposes of approximate comparison; 1 BAR = 1 ATM = 100 Kpa
14.7P.S.1. When the pressure of the engine's inlet air is increased, the engine's power
output is increased. This pressure increase is called 'boost'.
How does fitting a Dynamic Turbosystem effect the power of my
vehicle?
Modern 4WD diesel engines, typically produce peak torque (pulling power), at
around 2,000-2,500 R.P.M. and peak horsepower at around 3,500-4,000 R.P.M.
Turbo boost starts at approximately 750 R.P.M. and rises progressively to its
maximum pressure of approx. 70 Kpa (10 P.S.I.) by approx. 2,000 R.P.M. At this
point, the percentage torque increase of a correctly tuned installation is approx. 40%,
at the wheels. This continues to the peak horsepower point of 3,500-4,000 R.P.M. At
no point is it ever any less than standard. e.g. at 1500 R.P.M. it is at least 25% greater
than the standard vehicle at the same R.P.M.
Can I fit a Dynamic Turbosystem myself and, if not, how long and
what is the cost of having it fitted for me ?
While most competent mechanics could probably fit a Dynamic Turbosystem,
tuning requires specialised knowledge. The lack of this knowledge could have
serious consequences. In addition, warranty can only be provided on Dynamic
Turbosystems which are installed by authorised facilities.
The cost of having the installation performed by Andrew at Berrima Diesel is
only about 10% of the total purchase price. This provides a warranted, correctly
tuned, "no hassle" installation for the customer. All diesel vehicle installation can be
performed in one day.
What creates the most heat? Fuel or turbo boost?
Diesels do not need an air control (eg. manifold butterfly valve. The only ones
requiring a butterfly are vacuum operated governor pumps) to operate. The more air
the better. Add too much fuel to the equation and the exhaust gas temperature
rises rapidly.
What type of oil and how often should it be changed ?
Turbos must have good quality oil. Use either a mineral, semi or fully-synthetic
engine oil. Berrima Diesel recommends Shell Rimula range or Shell Helix Ultra .
Change oil at intervals recommended by the vehicle manufacturer.
How long does a turbo last ?
On average, as long as the engine or longer with regular engine servicing and good
quality engine oil.
What is a ‘dump’ valve or ‘blow-off‘ valve ?
A valve which relieves boost-pressure between the compressor outlet and engine as
the throttle is closed (Only required on throttle valve controlled diesels which are
rarely seen these days). These are commonly fitted to hotted up petrol cars so it
sounds good changing gears among other reasons!
Can I fit a turbo from another 4WD ?
No, virtually all turbocharger are different inside, even if they appear similar on the
outside. The turbo model e.g. Mitsubishi TD04, is only the model, not the
specification.
Should I leave my engine ‘ticking over’ before it is turned off ?
Not for normal every day driving, but still worthwhile if the engine has been under
load or raced before being turned off. e.g. Towing a caravan or after climbing a long
incline.
Why is it important to balance a turbocharger ?
Without highly accurate balancing, vibration will create a whining noise, reduce
turbo bearing life and reduce turbo efficiency.
How much boost does my turbo produce?
Correctly set up diesel 4WD turbochargers run up to between 10 PSI to12 PSI with
Intercooler turbocharged engines running upwards of 13PSI.
How many psi in one bar ?
14.7 psi = 1 bar.
Are all actuators the same ?
No, each has a different opening pressure and rate.
Oil in the turbo inlet pipe - Should I be concerned ?
A small amount of oil usually exists, drawn in from the engine's crankcase breather
system. High engine wear will increase the amount of oil found, and will require
further engine tests (not turbo).
Should a turbo be serviced ?
No specific turbo servicing is required, but regular quality engine servicing is needed
to reduce the chance of turbocharger problems.
What is a water-cooled turbo ?
The central part of the turbo, housing the bearings, is surrounded by a water jacket
through which the engine's water coolant is passed. This water continues to circulate
after the engine is turned off, cooling the turbo, and preventing heat soak.
Do I need to up grade my exhaust ?
Generally not. Our systems are designed to run utilising as much genuine component
as possible. Some systems on the market promote exhaust change as it is required by
that particular turbo. Doing so usually picks up more noise than performance.
How noisy should a turbo be ?
Only an unbalanced, worn out or damaged turbo will produce any significant turbo
noise.
What is an intercooler ?
A special type of radiator which cools air before it enters the engine. As a turbo
compresses air, the air heats up. Power can be increased if the air entering the engine
is cooler. The cooler air is more dense meaning that more fuel can be injected for
more power.
Will my vehicle run ‘cooler’ with an intercooler ?
Theoretically, but not always the case! We commonly find Intercooled 4WD vehicles
running hot due to over-fuelling and radiator restriction. Restriction meaning that hot
air passes out of the Intercooler over the air conditioning condenser and finally the
radiator. The poor old radiator is left with scraps of extremely hot air and then is
expected to cool the engine. We don’t advise fitting them as hot Australian conditions
can often be the catalyst for engine heat problems.
What will happen to my fuel consumption?
More power generally means more fuel. With a diesel turbo system, fuel consumption
stays generally the same and can become better under towing conditions

瓦窑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 11:12

原帖由 coldweather 于 2008-7-9 20:55 发表 ! T u% S; O6 V( U
I have been repairing cars for more than ten years, I just want to say that what XIAO FENG CAN YUE had said about cars is correct and he should be a expert in this field.I can't understand why there a ...

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2008-7-10 16:09

原帖由瓦窑于 2008-7-10 12:12 发表 0 ?$ v g' D4 X# z3 d' u2 s

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我觉得你们做事比较霸道，为什么不愿意听别人的意见。吧网站搬到你家吧。

sunshine_39 · 发表于 2008-7-10 17:43

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yanchenru · 发表于 2008-7-10 17:49

挺有文采的

漏洞百出 · 发表于 2008-7-10 19:55

你说结束就结束，你是who？面谈？你想打架吗？打架没问题，但是得有意义，我可不会在论坛上和你争吵就和你约决斗，就比如一条狗对我吠，我当然不会去和它决斗。。。但是如果它冲上来咬到我了那就另当别论了，不信你试试？顺便句：你只是一个胆汁失控的。。。低能儿，看过越狱吗，那个近亲结合生产出来的变态杀人那个。。。挺像你

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2008-7-10 20:55

原帖由 漏洞百出 于 2008-7-10 20:55 发表 , e: U; M) j8 c8 X' W) \
你说结束就结束，你是who？面谈？你想打架吗？打架没问题，但是得有意义，我可不会在论坛上和你争吵就和你约决斗，就比如一条狗对我吠，我当然不会去和它决你们干嘛斗。。。但是如果它冲上来咬到我了那就另当别论了，不信你试 ...

你把别人比喻成狗，玩看你更像。而且不是有种的那种。是那种只有你自己知道。你们干嘛只会乱咬。歇歇吧

单手俯卧撑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 21:30

请问哪位朋友知道漏洞百出的情况？看似挺豪气的，我喜欢接交豪气的朋友。有重谢！

[ 本帖最后由单手俯卧撑于 2008-7-10 22:31 编辑 ]

单手俯卧撑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 21:33

阁下在线？交个朋友吧？

睡懒觉的闹钟 · 发表于 2008-7-10 21:48

变成交友帖了

单手俯卧撑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 21:50

?????

单手俯卧撑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 21:56

还看不上？ EDMONTON的华人圈就这么点。猜得不错，咱们都是今年刚来的，就凭你这份气冲霄汉的豪情，你这朋友我交定了。时间会让我们碰面的，到时候牛饮一下，我请客。

单手俯卧撑 · 发表于 2008-7-10 22:13

看来就我们俩在线了。 “有朋自远方来，不亦乐乎？”。在异国能多交个朋友，那也是缘分。你说对吗？

西御寺 · 发表于 2008-7-10 22:15

牛饮能不能算我一个,漏洞百出的酒钱算我的

boa · 发表于 2008-7-11 00:34

hidlights · 发表于 2008-7-11 07:43

fu le
lets go drink la , any one?

maomao119 · 发表于 2008-7-11 07:51

卖车帖搞到这份上。。。晕。

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2008-7-11 08:02

有意思啊, 喝酒叫上我

carpoool · 发表于 2008-7-11 09:10

原帖由 sunshine_39 于 2008-7-10 18:43 发表
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scuba1995 · 发表于 2008-7-11 09:19

这哥们估计是本版有史以来卖车最强悍的了,见佛杀佛,见鬼杀鬼啊........

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FrankSoccer · 发表于 2008-7-11 10:17

无论是谁，骂人都要封的! 对吧，版主？

怎么警告都没有一个？

outsider · 发表于 2008-7-11 11:09

There are so many rude people,it's unfair for xiaofengcanyue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why no alert for them!

outsider · 发表于 2008-7-11 11:14

who are you, "漏洞百出:---this guy? You are so rude,xiaofengcaiyue is more polite than you,you are just a garbage!

outsider · 发表于 2008-7-11 11:15

If you don't know how to be a polite chinese,just shut up!

carpoool · 发表于 2008-7-11 12:42

If both xiaofengcaiyue and outsider are banned, at least 漏洞百出 should be banned for the same reason for the sake of consistency and fairness which is good for the development of this forum in the long run!

Just sth Laoyang and Board Master to consider!

zidane · 发表于 2008-7-11 13:49

unfairness does exist in the world, thats why we have poor and rich, lol

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西御寺 · 发表于 2008-7-11 16:06

漏洞百出 3 天

outsider 1 天

carpoool · 发表于 2008-7-11 17:08

原帖由 西御寺 于 2008-7-11 17:06 发表 5 p) x: }9 ?& h/ w
漏洞百出 3 天: R, E% Y: r+ Z

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十字街 · 发表于 2008-7-11 18:52

怎么不吵了？真扫兴！

如果网站有年度最强贴主评比，我一定投这个贴的票！

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