I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache 6 X- [. k, l8 p X6 O( v6 v6 R7 v6 [8 o' oCalm down everyone please. 0 `' C B7 W4 n! C4 q8 D" L3 d% j8 p4 V
不存在 can mean two different things: 8 b$ d5 D# p# }/ D* ?2 t2 t2 t; L Z& ^) v D- E0 @
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.% C, b( S. p( c6 _4 a( b
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 4 P" t2 G, e/ p/ C: `+ [ ^7 }4 V$ I# I, [, F4 TI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist Y0 W' q0 z) k& \, X! P [& \
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表7 S9 G; D6 G4 ?* H% q
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache* L* |8 }, C, z" f2 `
7 S0 Y5 s) a3 G+ `Calm down everyone please. / g; o8 q0 O; p2 A# e ( y: C/ z5 }3 \! ]不存在 can mean two different things:5 V) t6 k6 R# N: b; f
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.' [* a2 c, l' a5 M0 L( l
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 2 D1 _- \- g3 @$ {: V% R5 R( U% D) ^/ Z4 A: A% w1 h
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
原帖由 balubalu 于 2006-6-8 09:01 发表 ; O5 i. ~& ?5 s3 e0 k k* H* f' t% n0 a* }* _7 p - Q1 r8 Q3 _* z4 M 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不 ...
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: D! {3 {/ o9 D/ v, ~2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! & c5 H) N# E; l8 @; i ) s4 Q5 v8 X/ }# N) sAt least dora meant that I am pretty sure.! C. ^5 E9 \+ G& U* U
4 e' y' } M, v4 W! r[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:57 编辑 ]
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years): R- @+ f# `) @" j n/ R6 {/ w
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Maybe we should stop argument. * s! e% c0 \& K; ^4 X1 ]2 y0 T+ f0 ^4 H
My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion) |$ L6 G/ `* X
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[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]