I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache1 h- L g1 x `
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Calm down everyone please. , y- q8 W8 p! S% \' B" v . w5 y# i- F; u% K5 \7 l% t不存在 can mean two different things:9 a- L- D1 d9 |, h6 |
7 ~& B0 _+ @' d7 D1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. ! y7 P+ T7 P% ]' a# W$ K. U K2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 2 k) Z1 F: o+ T , r. c! Z3 P6 I, gI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist5 M( \' L8 x" M+ d2 \6 f! Z
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原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表8 l: b: @" @& ?! c4 ~5 |
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache# {9 `8 X% A+ o7 @
/ V% t: l. f( H0 {2 ~% B( {2 f) gCalm down everyone please. 3 C* u6 t, m8 ]$ r6 g9 m$ w# P6 h# {( J# \ a1 X9 h
不存在 can mean two different things:5 O( \6 b/ I6 N4 V( k& l
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.8 t4 H* o5 z1 x$ x7 [" O
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头: C2 {, _. s2 [% i3 P S U( v
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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2 }8 j4 X8 y' \! @* \小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
; h! @, c* Z+ e+ T( c% P O {3 B$ K# G4 _. J# p, w Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?. B0 a* u! S7 b$ C6 Q; d* `4 Z$ t
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
3 d4 r3 U( t9 H- D2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!* s( b& J& U4 {! m, R+ a
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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' S4 i2 J; I! f1 R. m那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) $ Z q2 Q& z6 j. [9 J! K) o 7 }2 s5 D ]; n' h7 {! c* eMaybe we should stop argument. : H6 ~, W5 V6 N2 v 3 g( i: u+ V# t: r! NMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion; e0 K3 i- I7 u) k
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