看来真要大麻烦了：大石油公司纷纷缩减开支，延期石油开采计划

每天一点

Suncor and UTS rein in oilsands plans
Last Updated: Thursday, October 23, 2008 | 10:04 AM MT Comments21Recommend22
CBC News
' u9 v# V8 |) QTwo big Canadian heavy oil companies said on Thursday they are delaying new projects and cutting capital spending as the global credit crunch and plunging crude prices play havoc with Alberta's high-cost oilsands.
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Suncor Energy Inc. said it is slashing next year's capital budget by one-third to $6 billion and delaying the completion of its Voyageur heavy oil upgrader by one year to 2012.

Also, Petro-Canada said the costs of its bitumen upgrader planned for north of Fort McMurray have risen to approximately $28 billion from the initial estimates of $18 billion, too expensive for the liking of the Calgary-based oil giant or its partners, UTS Energy Corp. and Teck Cominco Ltd.

As a result, the group might dump the construction of a new upgrader entirely.

# z$ N+ b2 {* D) e/ R"The partners are looking at different configurations and timing options to arrive at the best project combination. In the near term, the partners contemplate making an investment decision only with respect to the mining portion of the project and deferring a decision to construct the upgrader portion, which would substantially reduce project costs prior to first oil," Petro-Canada said in a press release concerning its third quarter.

The partners remain committed to pulling bitumen out of the on-site mine starting in 2011, Petro-Canada said.

In its release, Suncor noted that the altered financial world — tightening credit conditions and falling oil prices — forced the oil company to make changes to its spending program, which the firm had increased only one month earlier by 20 per cent to approximately $8.5 billion.
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Three month chart for Suncor Energy Inc.
6 @) V' v5 n/ ?"Our aim is to ensure we are living within our means during a time of market uncertainty, while also making the strategic spending decisions that will allow us to continue on our growth path," said Rick George, Suncor's president and chief executive officer.

# C8 A% ^% R* M& x/ W% u' B8 TOil prices have fallen below $70 US a barrel and, despite an emergency meeting of OPEC, analysts now expect crude costs to stay at less than one-half the June peak of $147.

7 c8 C+ Y" h4 c! dIn past public comments, George cited $75 to $80 a barrel as the break-even price for oilsands projects.

6 A$ m9 }' T5 a& @- yThe $20.6-billion Voyageur project, also to be situated north of Fort McMurray, was originally set to pump 550,000 barrels daily by 2012.

"We remain committed to an integrated expansion strategy and targeted oilsands production of 550,000 barrels per day. However, we've always had options available to us in terms of how the expansion is rolled out — and we believe in the current economic environment it's prudent to exercise that flexibility,” George said.

polyhedron

形势很不乐观, 准备勒紧腰带吧.  我所在的公司是为油田服务的, 最近的变化如下:
0 D  c! x+ j8 R, D- 业务量明显少很多
1 r7 x: A8 `5 g2 T- 为省开支, 把办公室的免费咖啡由小杯的改成了大壶烧的
-THANKSGIVING的惯例-一顿大餐免了
$ E# \' F' c; O/ ~-部门的头以前每2-3个月, 至少带我们出去搓一顿, 这半年一次也没有. 看形势以后也没了.
+ Q- W! H: ^  r' g8 W-以前配1到2人的岗位, 全改成了1人, 实在忙不过来, 就加班.
9 U5 G& C, {" `4 u+ _0 a. j9 c" R-大PROJECT暂时停了, 小的继续.

自由的像风

房价真的降下了，又没有人想要了。

[ 本帖最后由 自由的像风 于 2008-10-23 20:55 编辑 ]

polyhedron

原帖由 自由的像风 于 2008-10-23 20:32 发表
  w& X- [: H# |) o8 s房价真的降下了，有没有人想要了。

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想啊, 就等着抄底呢, 可不想一夜回到解放前

牛肉粉丝

原帖由 polyhedron 于 2008-10-23 18:41 发表
形势很不乐观, 准备勒紧腰带吧.  我所在的公司是为油田服务的, 最近的变化如下:
- 业务量明显少很多
% O7 ]* Y; ]  d* h1 W) ?6 f8 d  i- 为省开支, 把办公室的免费咖啡由小杯的改成了大壶烧的
-THANKSGIVING的惯例-一顿大餐免了
-部门的头以前每2 ...

5 [3 z9 M$ D/ j# A. E* g. L9 c半年前油价还在140呢，你们头估计是变cheap了。

propeller

原帖由 polyhedron 于 2008-10-23 18:41 发表
7 f; i! P5 s3 w5 I形势很不乐观, 准备勒紧腰带吧.  我所在的公司是为油田服务的, 最近的变化如下:
- 业务量明显少很多
- p7 j( M; f- X/ M- 为省开支, 把办公室的免费咖啡由小杯的改成了大壶烧的
4 I& {2 g1 J  z! }! F' J3 k$ A-THANKSGIVING的惯例-一顿大餐免了
-部门的头以前每2 ...

你太敏感了吧

就算是SLOW DOWN 也是需要一个过程的，不可能这么快就立竿见影

潇洒哥

要来的最终会来，随遇而安吧。

polyhedron

原帖由 propeller 于 2008-10-23 23:17 发表
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你太敏感了吧
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就算是SLOW DOWN 也是需要一个过程的，不可能这么快就立竿见影

你觉得美国目前的经济形势只是SLOW DOWN吗, 就算是SLOW DOWN, 几天才叫快? 这么多家金融机构破产, 至少是RECESSION
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2 Z1 U% z5 V- E4 p3 u  T' {# n3 z事实摆在这里的, 盲目乐观能改变状况吗. 但愿能度过难关.

东北老农民

原帖由 牛肉粉丝 于 2008-10-23 20:44 发表

半年前油价还在140呢，你们头估计是变cheap了。

我所在的石油公司,准备陆续LAID-OFF CONTRACTOR,减人增效,正式职工加班取消,改成4/3,即工作四天,休息三天,降低成本.

东北老农民

原帖由 propeller 于 2008-10-23 23:17 发表
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6 i. U# g6 t0 d+ x你太敏感了吧

就算是SLOW DOWN 也是需要一个过程的，不可能这么快就立竿见影

立竿见影!

bryant

你是在opti吧, 好像对opti影响挺大的. 感觉还是大公司安全点

天豕爱美丽

楼上的都是石油公司的或者设计公司的吧。
9 a& [$ |% J% P油价降了，我们这里倒是挣钱了，第三季度成本很降，销售反而比去年同期要好。短时间内，至少一年以内平缓发展。

! \$ a/ n4 L: u! a不过长此下去，任何行业都不能独善其身了。

waterfruit

对所有行业有影响，对安装公司：
-辞退合同工
-正式工加班取消
; G0 q/ j  \6 C8 ]$ u8 C! Z-自动辞职的立马批准，美国工会大兵滚滚开过来，低于本省工会薪资20%。

青苹果

Syncrude开会也在狂喊控制成本，明年大幅度削减overtime，contractor估计要砍不少，还有retention bonus也居然没有增长，下面抱怨很大，可以看出公司是准备过冬天了。紫光怎么不出来救市啊，求求大仙了。

WHMIS

Oct 24 (Reuters) - The growing financial crisis and plunging energy prices have forced North American oil companies to scale back spending and delay projects, with expensive ventures in the Canadian oil sands hardest hit.

# o! y, D( W  l$ O( _/ oBelow is a list of projects that have been delayed or scaled back in recent months, as well as other related news.

3 K8 g2 w7 F* X# W5 P6 POct. 23 - Suncor Energy (SU.TO: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz): delays construction of oil sands upgrader for C$20.6 billion Voyageur expansion by one year to 2013. Expansion boosts production from Suncor's oil sands operations near Fort McMurray, Alberta, to 550,000 bpd from 350,000.
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4 T# T# E2 H1 ~) k( k3 B( [Oct. 23 - Petro-Canada (PCA.TO: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz): mulls deferring upgrader for proposed C$21 billion Fort Hills oil sands project to save up to C$10 billion. Move would mean partners build mine and extraction plant and sell as much as 160,000 barrels a day raw bitumen into open market starting 2011. Decision before year-end.
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Oct. 23 - Nexen Inc (NXY.TO: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and Opti Canada (OPC.TO: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz): delay decision on second phase of Long Lake oil sands project to some time in 2009. Expansion would double production of synthetic crude to 120,000 barrels a day. First phase cost C$6.1 billion and is now just starting up.

+ `3 o# C4 Z, IOct. 23 - Value Creation Group: construction of C$4 billion Heartland upgrader near Edmonton, Alberta, reported halted. First phase would have processed 77,500 barrels a day of bitumen into synthetic crude. Privately held company has regulatory approval for plant with 260,000 bpd capacity.
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Oct 22 - Baker Hughes Inc (BHI.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz): expects about 200 oil and gas drilling rigs in North America would be idled during the fourth quarter because of the tighter credit markets and the declines in oil and gas prices.

每天一点

这么多，那得涉及多少个职位？

whom

凡是在石油公司，或者工程公司工作的朋友都有明显的感觉：
9 p2 `2 `$ m; H8 x* \# L1、各个公司工程量急剧缩减
5 {" j- c* |7 L4 x5 ]) z* s2、已经在建项目纷纷停见，至少缓建2-3年，   还不可怕吗？
' T0 h4 K# Y) s) w- s  B( D3 i3、CONTRACTOR马上就要被LAYOFF了

2 s2 w/ l3 G/ U  l' [/ p% ~; }- u3 W专家预测 北美房地产市场，至少阴跌3-5年，生活消费品市场的需求亦将逐步萎缩

青龙居士

henryaa

原帖由 天豕爱美丽 于 2008-10-24 12:36 发表
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油价降了，我们这里倒是挣钱了，第三季度成本很降，销售反而比去年同期要好。短时间内，至少一年以内平缓发展。

4 p* R0 I; @2 t( O  q& v* Q- i不过长此下去，任何行业都不能独善其身了。

) q1 k! K  D% ~7 Y; S对政府和准政府工影响不大。

牛肉粉丝

原帖由 henryaa 于 2008-10-26 15:28 发表

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没有人能独善其身的，大家都是绑在一根绳上的。
- M: E7 y' W( ?. c只能寄希望石油别跌破30，跌破30就准备回国吧。

RowlandSpring

我是中国人我怕谁。

dzw

我是光脚的不怕穿鞋的.

瓦窑

我个人认为对于Alberta的居民总体影响不大。很多油砂项目已经在建，是不会停的，否则只会损失更大。例如Voyageur只是把原来计划上马的项目缓建，对在建项目没有影响，最终建设目标不变。Petro-Can把Upgrader停了，这个队很多只想找Edmonton周边工作的人估计是个打击，不过Fort Hill North还是照见，那也是超大的项目，只不过是在Fort  McMurray。  这些主要影响外来的工人，因为公司会加大成本控制的力度，放缓进度，加班费减少，很多外省来的人就不想做了。劳动力成本会拉到较为合理的水平。当然人走了会影响房地产市场，想炒房的估计难了。对于没房的也许是好消息。不过我觉得Edmonton得房价还能怎么低呢？

catty

经济稍有风吹草动，对一代移民是个冲击，和本地人相比，劣势还是明显，尽管我们工作更努力。

lastman

房价回到解放前，

雁过留声

It公司，已经有两三个组撤并了，我就是合同工。前两个月还找我谈转正，今天我问头，又说还得等等，具体不清楚等等。

OneWorld

我们公司为石油和矿山服务,订单没见少,还忙得不亦乐乎呢.

yj151

”不过我觉得Edmonton得房价还能怎么低呢？“


" y$ C+ K% D, t6 m就如去年不少经济学专家还在预测我们未来几年的美好前途一般，谁能预知未来呢？“
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Homework

如果是七八年前来的，就知道当时的艰难，不也过来了吗？
我不知道这次能有多差，也许会有些挫折，也许会有失业，但相信只要保持身体健康和良好的心态，基本不会有重大问题。

云山水月

哎呀呀。其实实在回家了，拿拿EI也没有什么不好。可以多点时间陪孩子。可以多点时间灌水。可以再考个证啥的。节衣缩食一点，日子不是照样过。