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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.3 ?5 l  \6 K# F. y, O
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 0 i' e/ K9 \( ~) O% T- x
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " y  j5 H2 ~) r, d1 h6 x, H3 Q% ^

' l7 p+ ]' I8 P! J& L9 i* Z+ sNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.5 j& Z) l! C3 g5 R
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.: k! a5 w- n1 a  @' v
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ; r8 c3 i5 P2 S) h3 e6 l
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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& c2 `% [1 T& F% l3 O7 ZMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. , @) C+ p0 \( T1 }2 U4 Q' I
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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+ s0 ^# T4 _, r9 l* xTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,  _7 v1 ^' _/ c# L) d) P
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。$ N. b2 ^0 S$ @! a. s3 D
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。: s* j0 M2 n2 ^" l5 |& D
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
, X. ]! [, M4 m跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

& k; @8 T6 g# n& h! R) W很多人都回学校深造去了
0 E: U: e2 O) J; i嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta  u) y! a, I9 `
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
4 A: e  ], M' d0 u3 q2 Iboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton0 U2 z& b9 z1 S/ ~$ h
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to  t7 I+ [# z5 r4 s1 d" {) m
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
7 N% J; s- e9 B  h# Cformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
7 o7 D5 i. H; `: X3 f' ]4 Mfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,$ L+ e7 Z  B. N. ^8 [( ?  ^3 b
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
  J" ?# w5 ^6 ~9 `3 J  Umay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined4 L! [. F5 S! c- t% A- K
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%, D2 z7 ^/ J+ Q+ Y
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta* O8 u" C% f) H
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new& m# P9 H( S! V* f- x- D
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
, t/ @) ^/ K  F" @  J1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
, w+ }. X# W8 Esales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
7 L: b" ?' M( ]  m; Abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in- [+ _/ W/ \5 @2 n& `
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
- Z/ e* S- x, J9 b. R8 L- ^unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7477 a- w3 G  G2 ~. S; v
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
( `+ ^5 v7 B3 t# `; w# ^2 \major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.0 }, E; R6 c" W# T
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan2 _9 K, j7 O1 Q1 H
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
9 q2 I# k3 r0 R/ }. Srelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale1 [5 I! r8 b# [0 S, F
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
8 d! W4 t7 H1 k9 P1 mdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
8 S$ w' D- h7 _1 a/ MAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%) O5 L) @# K* e" M" n; l& H
leg down over 2009.# D- l1 L# S% M. E

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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. |5 s. O1 o; g) O4 ?! v9 D9 [, dhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments$ j5 H  q/ j- m" ~

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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