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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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, E. x4 |' r* {+ q6 j/ mTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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  T+ Z6 o7 H( o$ C, x3 EThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. & P6 u, o0 F! D( Z) N2 o
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ; d0 V- c  t8 \, t
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.2 h9 ~- V# W% `' B/ y# E0 b% t
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.) R3 N- o9 w2 B" f/ h. P- a

# J$ g( z9 N; o  T. Y"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 4 ^1 l+ x& s6 s' v8 F: ^3 n! E
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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5 J5 M# q5 y" P0 X; EMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 9 O2 D. F/ _3 Q; |
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,& ?7 J/ p7 }) C/ b
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。6 x2 C' N7 c# m9 x, n0 L; f
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。" M/ a4 p. M4 z' h1 d  `
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
, \1 w+ C5 A# y7 Z! U. d+ f. O跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
; @7 o7 z8 l; [, J  @( r+ rformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided% ~7 z% f  n  J4 s5 |
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
$ V, \5 D6 ~& i2 @; I3 D$ Z+ Xthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and1 F) e% y( f8 H. z# @
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ ~3 x( x* p4 M. ppace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 c* [* L/ \9 E4 n. z2 ~precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
- k& J6 t/ N4 d. m% pto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,9 ^1 r2 U% S0 j2 n
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
: D2 R- n8 P" D4 S: Z30,000 new households will form in the province during( K! G0 I1 i1 ^9 m9 P3 `
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
4 D* B6 j5 [! {: W; bEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s% t$ F5 f% g) n) s0 s
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals- y) M+ b  w8 D. }4 g* X
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
7 K; g' d1 q/ O! A# P( T+ R; Csales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
7 b2 [) i- `2 l+ n- t4 _" Aclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is$ }+ l6 I% q1 e: \! J* `
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of; Q- s! U. I- s: e
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a8 E. f! J4 m2 |* S1 G, ^( L) u1 m7 W
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive! k2 a' x+ I; E! V% [  I6 R) [. E4 E
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in( N! k# H% `# t
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest+ f3 Q7 z4 G2 l
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled- _, ^) x4 [3 g
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.* }1 A$ y$ P3 L  S* v
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s. |7 ~" {9 ^3 D8 D" }
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
8 B  z9 F8 N7 p9 r! o  ~; l6 F2 L6 TAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan7 ?5 e5 K( D8 R: }& @
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.! a0 j$ J0 r& x# A$ v/ l
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average$ x2 j" Y. \9 W" P# v
resale price in February is evidence that past prices1 {  W% d6 U: J8 r  q
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
' }8 \8 n1 c+ m. Fhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( v, Z, ?% G& R; J
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
' V( D9 W# ^  r$ V" i, `. d" QAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, e5 e0 {! k/ w: E, y# n
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments7 {# u* K5 t' h. X2 N
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