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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 v' x  l9 D* Y( _% R+ B

) k7 h7 |8 f7 I( MTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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8 j% U/ x5 [9 k& z8 p2 gThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. * h: d  b# ]$ @+ s% ?
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 7 c6 s4 b7 E" v/ ~/ f

, P7 i# E* k" J  ?  y7 F. j2 ZNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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1 b8 o, t2 E6 w: t" b4 yTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.6 x; X! {. ~8 u

! f+ u5 \9 \, i1 p"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 1 F( r% z0 f; f+ h; G' S
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.% J7 a2 |; G0 [/ `& R' d
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. & t% ^( \- P/ V) V

6 }  s" t/ f9 s! v% F7 Whttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- i3 S) L1 N/ {* G; R) m$ m+ n: P
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 |: H; S9 Q6 a4 r6 S, a) d
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 " l- {1 c! y% G% U' G
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
3 V( C$ r& V6 W1 g- [Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
% p% G6 Z- C  g0 aboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton7 F. h& e" a! M" h* @! y& F
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to+ K4 \, W3 Q% K% Y
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household& z0 I0 F8 _/ G3 M2 W
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided, p( A: c2 f# ?# X; @
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,9 S0 D% A, u- x& {1 @
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
# [+ d! Q1 G) r0 ^8 `; Pmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
- C. G8 j1 y2 n& C. C/ @( ~pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
' g3 {- w$ y! i0 C/ nprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined9 v+ x* g1 D- M- \4 H
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
- H9 m( s* J$ E+ tprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this2 U1 `9 v+ W9 p1 K. d
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,+ v2 d/ v1 ?: Q/ e
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around1 R( Y9 [! L2 ?: w/ s: K2 a0 ^
30,000 new households will form in the province during
7 B! N! ~  k7 |: q2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
8 l& ^* c. K7 n& F; z0 b" [$ QEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s' [+ e. Z* s* {; f2 h6 f1 j0 y, l
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
# G* K& h0 c  z( }8 dduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta' s9 S8 m! {- g7 `
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
2 c# f+ T7 o& s: @households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
8 U% J/ y2 m3 D, h5 Xduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging6 y9 M+ d0 S5 M* S8 }
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
7 e' H( S4 b( C7 e: Tclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
& [1 w  n4 ]; Bexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
4 x4 P1 r" S  n0 g1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a2 J/ H! a' J3 e5 T4 F% P2 C3 H$ P
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive- P! h( b/ h$ Q
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
, a8 ]! q8 L, W& H0 C# W2 @two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
; N8 [3 Y/ k- z& qunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
/ K: f" b% k: l( v2 {, m* r: S0 y5 Xunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
: q" C9 n) F# z" p, s% Z% s$ }$ |  crecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ d' p: O$ l: K9 y9 rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
4 p/ |7 z. p4 gmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
+ M+ P& P3 O4 I" y4 b- z$ Sof new singles, and, with demand having cooled, b# |8 b$ U! Y; O7 e! n2 k" |: ]
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
/ ]% r) y* B0 kThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
. }! n- U- t' sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.8 H6 C7 d3 I# h( `$ t% c
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
! X0 l$ Z& Z3 Chousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
$ F  Q* u7 \; s6 w5 ]  X0 {3 v: q+ ~relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
1 y. i" B) E2 ^! H5 S" @# bprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
6 ?/ j# o7 Z' n, [: \though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners' F, l$ `5 ^- |* k
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  T" ?) M7 U, q: h& j# i- Z* I7 ^
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
! P9 K' N" x/ K! kresale price in February is evidence that past prices
! |: |. e7 }4 C" b4 V! p6 Texceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove- O  h" S1 V5 W/ m
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 Y- O% f$ P1 q3 w* |
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,3 O' _* K( \* m
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
8 B/ W0 J: [: O5 ?leg down over 2009.1 u' N% r3 }: U3 @# N" {+ _

* k- z' d, R5 ^4 G! Y* |4 g+ G[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
9 _! J+ \: L: X+ h  uAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. : U  e+ w! u9 F5 v4 v& {
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子5 s3 Q* M) C+ e5 K. q
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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