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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 6 s6 `2 k4 S( M# Z
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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+ k" B% e' G2 p$ T% @% r' vNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.  [- A6 `1 T/ @6 Q' s- H$ x6 }

8 _# @! w6 T% x3 O& e2 f  YTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.) ~* U& ^( @" y4 b$ l
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. * K  _9 D; j- s- A- ]

" U9 K) X4 R; e( L0 hTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.. ~& g2 }! i0 a+ A' ]0 p
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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6 {$ `! d. F/ bTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
, M7 G7 U; R7 g" v; v. Z! _ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 $ J' Q# i, W, g7 F
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了5 D+ w! n2 B. q- z, Q* c" M/ ~
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta) Q0 D0 J6 b! Q
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its1 p+ y: `6 P" S# Z
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton: Z2 ^( T1 j- d6 L
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
; ^" D, K5 D0 C2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household( ^$ a- |) X4 q6 |
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
# g6 ?" e4 o( ufrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,! _0 D) `  y# f( M/ {- h0 z
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
& @9 c2 i8 N9 e7 }' Q6 |  k4 ]may even cease completely during 2009. The previous& [7 E% K1 F2 b. a
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
/ q6 R1 m7 n: }$ w5 Sprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
5 v% w$ K9 e0 Bto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
) C8 g" c( k; K/ i7 o7 w; yprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around9 Q6 H4 ^) N# j6 b% E' A
30,000 new households will form in the province during) Y" F: `0 I3 Q6 f+ }6 A8 T
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
" ^" S8 o$ x# ]# qEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s1 O% y( d- D4 X" e
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%2 m8 E" v" N3 N& ?6 A/ I
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
, `1 n( @! [0 B# D. B( Zhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
( l6 c. H, R' ^4 b7 S7 {( M+ ahouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
8 m* A6 Y5 h! u4 W8 Q, sduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging1 A! C  }& p2 Y! S' w
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
2 T7 ^4 v: R  q# o/ h2 h1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
$ T! S  K# Z) z4 Lsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive4 v& M5 \3 c# P4 m; j2 ~: u
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
5 h2 m1 a! L1 a1 S/ F) b5 K+ u" ~two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in* @# f  U1 s0 P! c' i" ?& Z
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
6 T) p1 p6 b/ y9 W# v, |unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
7 f- J2 @; i/ B+ |* `recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the% \! l' T4 S+ R9 q
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s8 e; L; A; I6 n1 v( r
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories' s  p4 L" f! ~' P# }' N3 E! N# ?
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled4 |( o* N- _6 f. N
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
5 T$ K3 t# T' G( {: M' Z- zThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s+ ^$ h: z3 H) f' ~
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
$ t- U% ~  F+ V% t7 EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
1 C: R+ n: i) I; ^prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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3 r8 e; r3 z  R; |on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.3 A- e2 G/ V3 I5 q# ^: Z+ b
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average8 \( U( {/ y+ Y3 T: q
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
7 v% q* b9 g( G8 F  m3 i/ @exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
& |/ X; W1 B. ]% \( q) b1 G& Phomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’1 A- E$ V$ j  ?3 V3 q* X6 N
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,+ f4 e6 }5 N5 q; h9 Y4 K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,/ d& K7 o3 @6 G4 V3 f1 `4 O
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. $ N1 n, [8 r# u
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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