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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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* E! q" a2 Q9 q" F0 K# u" p0 g+ uThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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$ a2 O( n9 _, e0 ?"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 0 M7 B% O7 |9 S- _" h

# K+ g. `  l( L" gNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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- L" v9 J9 Z6 Q. @. z0 L( \3 P& y! HTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.! W+ V, V- |( B/ `( ]' W# B

$ b; y& @8 ~, r6 [4 w"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. + n  p# B% z3 e  S# ^
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ' ?! S; I; U, i
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
  B, E6 f9 ?2 Y5 y* c* \ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
' T+ W6 }" V+ b: z* E跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
1 N5 h) R. t0 C! W嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 u+ \& u- J( d1 W2 b1 JWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its0 X5 R; l5 T. T; J' A4 c
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton1 m" k* k8 q% o% j
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to  P9 P2 z. h/ C4 w7 F) P
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household9 c4 h7 K( v( }6 [1 [; A
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided; @0 Q# p$ }& U. J2 S6 y
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
# m3 Z1 y$ C8 d  }5 Hthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and% G0 }  U; M' B4 \% [$ d
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous5 y( |) t# x2 K' `) W
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed% h$ o1 ?% [4 P1 G  k
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined* \+ O3 T9 E4 X: X2 O
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year' Z! u: i! g1 M; L% t7 w" \
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
8 [8 H$ a* ]2 P1 N! q5 Q" A30,000 new households will form in the province during
5 j+ c, h$ _5 p% ^6 U2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
9 i- C" Y  @+ L7 MEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
3 Q* M( K4 `2 N  b& h+ e" B. zhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
  J7 |3 d: G! Yduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta8 ?2 s( I$ J* ]. `
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
) }4 K6 n2 }% k* G7 E7 A& bsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
8 m' y' b: o- U) V' K8 W/ F0 _1 Yclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is9 y' x7 f5 E5 }
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
$ s, w4 X$ R- Z! cbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in. L4 W. e8 o/ A7 B7 v
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in! `7 @+ q" I7 m0 u! ~
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747  M  A1 }3 r: f8 B8 _4 e
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest1 I/ p& Q3 ^4 U2 B" }: U6 ]( o
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
9 h% R) `0 b7 @+ z5 w# Lresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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/ t$ Z! q! w8 p/ x, Frapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
2 `. m3 `* a/ {The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
5 T; d& b2 P9 @, U2 ]boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
/ `# D& B& K9 x2 ]Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
8 K* `; I* v; Y1 s0 dhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced5 i- M3 Z* a, a, T) W( @
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
# x# }2 I/ v$ |( [% R9 G9 Cprices substantially eroded affordability and, even8 |. ]% d. l6 A3 K
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average, Q4 \. w, a& l! Z2 J2 I& S5 N- X
resale price in February is evidence that past prices4 L5 ]* l9 H- R: Q3 L
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
6 C' D3 j5 h. e# Shomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, ]: ?: D. ]6 v0 P3 C0 n1 u0 y
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,; X9 m5 c/ K4 I8 B* O2 p
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 3 \8 u7 r1 S! R& `9 y
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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