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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.4 V( o7 n- F3 n% _- z. }

" h1 w1 j) z4 C& f3 X5 TTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. # \" z# `4 T- {: U# z/ C5 l" X1 q  O% V

' O+ V; U$ ?* V$ n7 VThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 H6 |: h2 c" i# `/ [# ]0 T. E
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.3 o1 X/ W' D) c7 U
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.& s- `9 \, Z5 l4 D) ^1 a  V
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. . p1 l+ k! [3 n! T9 F
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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$ o/ |/ n" T$ _3 o0 e0 UMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 7 ~& Y0 P$ b0 D/ ~

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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, d9 Z- ^  Z' \4 n! \TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- ~6 x5 o4 u/ @; U9 S8 h
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。! P- k( a7 D0 _4 ?+ m$ O% X
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 s# g# B( U7 y4 Y" c0 u# `跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 O- A& r4 v% h很多人都回学校深造去了
2 L1 w/ v* T/ S6 h: g6 e嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 _! b! f9 M; @& }* rWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its- w% n4 p& _6 y) u$ P
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton8 X/ R: q' y0 w' J8 q" a# [7 s/ K2 Q
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to9 [; _9 ^; l! ~* U
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
/ b! O1 G1 m7 H9 y  \% kformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
: o" M+ _4 @4 b, R' d0 ]0 Sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
0 x' S: q0 E1 }1 ^the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
7 X; C7 A! c1 c& I" Emay even cease completely during 2009. The previous6 s' N; B0 ?" w0 _4 b7 H
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed9 ?/ O& m  m2 {" f! E+ |
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined: U& B6 `% t& L4 f3 [" J1 n2 `' X
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year5 b/ ?5 f; u4 V& U! I  o1 `
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
% P: ^$ D3 E" |7 T* H+ o+ eyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
, N! X- H- g% V0 lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around) g3 f* ~; M0 o( P' a4 v
30,000 new households will form in the province during
* \; @6 O/ s/ s  Z% o& J. l2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.4 |( f3 y/ k2 O
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s& a9 O( `; j" m/ t& V
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%5 t( e# ^" p& U) G- t0 C
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta4 U# S. ^5 B* U1 S5 f& x
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
+ ?: s' m+ l+ R/ i$ O; e9 qhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals/ r3 s3 n- \% o4 M1 W1 n! U
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
" L1 Y5 H7 W; |0 J5 z9 A8 |sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories0 d5 N3 q1 |. c
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is7 O( S! l" J7 U/ v9 V  A
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of7 a# ~6 [( j3 A* L( H9 x3 n& s  w
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a+ K+ L9 `2 {- l2 X2 F' ?
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive: v* t7 t$ D/ t& Y4 X
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in, b/ Z4 M6 L- W# E& `5 L& j
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in/ n1 ]8 F! h' Y; s1 v' U
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7477 K; r6 ?9 _+ g# m
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest1 Y3 `2 u) O, x8 w0 c
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the( \  h: l  L$ d$ b5 ?3 }# a
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
; |/ G6 j8 L' M% A, ^5 imajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
$ Z) e, ~4 E6 C1 f( WThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s: v5 b7 X; A4 b! Y+ [$ J2 h
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
# m1 t6 G& j$ }, z5 mAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
) G( C9 |. b8 h' v; u* Uhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced) K6 Q- s& z+ f. ~8 E: [
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 W3 g0 W6 r4 d6 Ion average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
, }/ B3 l. g! |/ uThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
( w: D) W6 s4 s5 rresale price in February is evidence that past prices% v. m# q7 P8 m+ P4 P" u
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
  [4 p5 e/ |+ N2 N7 Ahomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’9 d2 R' j3 c9 f1 Z! Q
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 r2 W( ^% T( aAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
4 i. Z+ C5 M" a3 L: r& l6 qleg down over 2009.' f% ?) [' K: U

& ^! U+ E$ x- u* O; _. ][ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. * U& T+ }6 T9 q: a8 m  T
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子6 I' H; m, A5 O" E* `

2 l) o8 }  {/ ^http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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