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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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3 b- X6 j1 f, W/ `, F: \& uTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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+ u) B( H  R$ l+ Q* ]The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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4 a+ S* ~& V- z! k; ANow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.4 o0 @' J: z* a2 ~/ y7 R

* n# d+ U5 V+ B2 m7 _2 g. }TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.! d% B4 @7 D# |8 f4 U1 h" ?. X
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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, |+ H7 B2 w, `; \8 XTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。- y* W' Y- w' F$ Y, b
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 + j) y- c" P. Z0 Y; ~( X
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 f% k: z7 n# c3 M- Q: y很多人都回学校深造去了
% V( {  g9 U) V% x- X4 ^嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta4 E; o5 l- o' K/ l
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to0 U; V% _; s& q, o' z% x
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
4 D' a( E3 C- u* G6 W5 l- N9 Uformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
5 p$ C" u& B4 k" cfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
. E: c8 F6 ^& |! H, nthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and* Q# X; m" X: x9 k; p
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined& G. v7 U' B* z4 I" e
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year% R2 E* Q, r1 Y: V+ x6 E& I, t
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
* i4 G3 \: m& T/ Y( N: yyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
1 R/ G3 i( F8 {8 b) m9 [* g7 Ohomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
' {/ `/ C8 y2 X2 R1 `, l9 T! r- {30,000 new households will form in the province during3 k: x- r  N; \0 t* c7 P- \0 D. A
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
2 [- J: Y; m, O7 U$ ZEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
6 h6 N" H. m- s. B: chomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%3 n+ V6 E+ d8 G" u
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta+ j8 a9 H1 i7 [2 n3 R% z
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# f6 ]/ c' f8 j5 `+ |
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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1 r# l3 m* {. Nsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories. d/ G, z& h% ~
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
1 g2 t$ P; U* D1 e- ~0 A6 R2 rexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* J+ G9 ~& h! X. d0 m9 B8 t% Q1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
& `8 [& R0 m4 \! }* z/ Y) N4 tsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
/ }( K9 a+ h4 u* ?4 j( Qbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in! F# W. Z- |: i3 e5 _; }; h
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
& ~" |* b* L; q! B/ d) G& U6 X0 _unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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% `* y0 V% s' x9 H  |2 m3 Erecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the! I4 Y& B! W; \" o# W
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s, A4 ^7 A- `. k
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.8 {* {" M$ }  v3 B$ x# B
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan( T3 Y+ ~% I5 n% c" f
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
- R( v8 k8 O5 L, z" @relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
5 a7 j+ D# Q0 B" F% L* ~; Mprices substantially eroded affordability and, even$ Y# _* ?, N3 q' b: x2 {1 ~/ H
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
/ B- r' N: |; x! Wresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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* Q/ N4 o3 V2 K$ h' ?* r! b' i) eAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%3 v% w0 ?2 q# x: u( W
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,. z3 S1 f/ y' B; F) I7 V& H/ T
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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* {' B+ u- X. ]0 G8 r' v. ~5 e[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ' i1 ^- E: L* @  R* D; J
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子" O7 _- M% t' f, n) ^2 ]

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