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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.( V; o) \# z- _2 n" r

8 i" \/ m7 [, N1 O$ r: c- P( ]TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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! }1 @) O5 B& E6 [3 Z+ i& r. NThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 4 v$ R- W8 l3 y  T) Q# k

1 w1 R6 T  c& |. nNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.  K2 r1 m& X4 X

1 o# }. w1 P1 L+ G+ r' WTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.% h& J' j0 t# T2 Y( _* l
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ( E0 b. k" s% J& {& t8 b$ R

- R9 ~/ N7 t; a5 k( k$ E9 C8 `TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 j: f; Q8 M  p3 j4 S1 {; s  @
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- N+ f7 t) U/ s7 G7 u

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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
& ]8 L7 C9 e7 {& W; g7 Z7 i 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。- Q8 T  F) L( @: S2 o

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 * r+ j' T6 i2 {5 o7 M1 v
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
( ^2 H/ r. p, m* ~( ?, _. ?嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
7 E2 D) H# ^7 A( fWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
" A1 B  S5 D# Uboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
1 T6 T. |8 s; _4 u" pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to- a- `6 F. B' B& E2 o
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
" B! V: O0 P& r  @$ ]- dformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
# U( T1 f. o; |- K9 I8 `. L+ {/ J& Tfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
& V) c) {  q; n8 r/ pthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and. |( Q9 @5 {/ |
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous7 k) d' |, v3 B% L
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed! \& x+ p/ X  ]7 t! ?0 n2 g' F
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined; T! l6 u. |1 D4 [4 F
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year  v" c- }0 N* y( S' s* T
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around2 t  l8 s4 _: R! P$ S; y% T
30,000 new households will form in the province during
" K. T+ U( c2 \2 }+ A& `2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.0 L. ], O( M- F! ~& A# m; \8 D
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
! n( o, A, i8 c: k0 W7 dhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
/ Z: h) K# s7 h7 fduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
  ~" H( S8 m$ V, k4 Phas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new0 o, J' x+ L2 R2 ^, E7 f& }
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals- C2 O" A5 J: v% ?
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is' D# {/ |; t, g8 H  O9 b& ]0 W- g4 s
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of) n0 \' {1 i# L
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
% U% B$ k6 I: x( g, o$ vsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
, {, @6 y3 Z6 A: e" vbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& }0 C( E6 u/ S( b2 ]! x0 B% f2 x
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
5 @0 M# I$ Z; @7 k5 }unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747+ ?  [& k7 Z0 y' _& I3 }
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
, r+ j0 E3 `7 o. Nrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
! n: ~$ c( W7 H5 M) n3 mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.2 {/ v2 d* j0 n4 E4 d
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
( b3 p1 t6 C5 p3 pboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.( P! `% ?8 D. D; ]
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
! H0 |3 l. [9 R+ L1 @' i& Hhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced& V& r" k$ n# x, I' L' T$ a  [
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
* z) L# V/ A, l/ Bprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
7 W9 O+ q; P0 ?  p) k2 U! Ithough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
) s! v  O9 I4 W4 ]on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.3 R6 f! K* K1 k5 |! b3 I9 k
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average4 L0 ]) r0 B! Z
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
$ M* O/ C5 J5 ~, l0 r: r  Rexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove1 x5 N7 M2 P% d* H" P9 L) x. E' O
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 _. k7 L1 @/ `( @$ d) ?
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: A. g6 ~; v' m% |8 q& Z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%: a- d6 S. \8 f
leg down over 2009.3 P3 H' M4 k% q0 \
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,4 h- S  _2 B' Y) h
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
1 b, x) o5 P8 M翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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9 u0 o4 Y3 X% N8 a$ N, u[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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