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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.1 S/ t- r' d" H; ]2 w9 u7 Q; U

/ }# A8 m+ R7 y! ]6 UTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 5 I  B; t8 a7 V' |1 ~
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 i; p5 y9 {8 o

, \& D# b9 Z5 Y' W+ f" C4 _Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.$ u3 o' J! i% z! G: j

1 p& p$ C4 v  r0 {. [! PTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000./ |" F/ y6 {; B* X/ e$ j

1 p; u% s% [( W& _& k"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ; k6 t2 @7 `( _, _8 f: T9 W

7 v6 @9 p+ y) ^( }- JTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year., W) ]. M' p4 l6 ?- t+ w9 A) I

& y2 Q/ }8 z! C8 D, uMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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' e( n4 G$ Q) Y0 ?  e2 F4 vTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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6 V) R# Y" r; ^/ f, o2 R[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。% Q* p4 h! g& u( C: s) j+ ~
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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2 n8 t+ F9 O( Y( l[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
% i9 n5 e8 R( J跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

1 Q2 F* q7 n1 W; _: o4 ]7 A很多人都回学校深造去了* a- p; |' m1 Q- R, k
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
9 ]2 l8 t6 Y" i1 D4 C7 uWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
, ^8 v  V) O8 W  y* N, Fboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
8 H/ {: L) H0 y5 f) jare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
6 p- C2 W: w& E: R6 _2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household, c2 ~* v9 `( s
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided3 v3 ~" @" d# b0 G6 D$ @! y6 _
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,( q! A+ Y: P: V- \' _
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
  X. w6 \4 y6 X# ?' wmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
3 H7 _0 U7 V% k0 t+ vpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed1 ], e+ N8 E5 M3 K* M
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined2 S( N1 R9 Y$ T- y" f/ E
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year9 q% u6 |  H$ @; Q5 T. w
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this$ B9 F% O9 d" c- }8 s# |/ V3 l
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
7 _. ^4 Z( ]% _8 ?  B2 t0 M; ?homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
9 ]# R$ [( p6 Y6 v! ?9 T30,000 new households will form in the province during
( Y3 ~# R: }- }$ `6 H2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.! H0 j8 y3 M" Y- T3 l& x
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( L# y0 e6 V- z
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
3 T8 W" c2 J/ m( X; Oduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
5 S8 x4 Y% U& g# i. f' K! \sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories& W7 |; C# q3 _0 {2 _
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is9 |; r* v  _) L) D7 K) t* R- d8 t
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of  r; k8 y$ S# q
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
; h2 }( K3 ?0 v  O5 C* F* Dsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 f" O8 B" L2 }* g7 ~$ Q- g
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747" a1 r, n; P# N1 I; F
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest5 w2 [7 \# z" V0 f* M1 p
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
& k- T. d; g4 t" N- W* [. E8 t" ]resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s  j/ R0 y$ K4 Q8 l3 Q
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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+ U) Q  f# E. {- W. F, \5 C8 nThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
4 {9 u8 C, g* X+ \: M6 B5 dboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.* }' p3 a! i9 {/ \# d! t* h
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan' o5 |# a0 A7 U
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced/ a& v  J% _1 A6 r; z8 v
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale' j4 G0 F: H6 u1 D3 n
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even& B$ g( ?2 X# @
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners7 j6 i4 I7 |+ d  b
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.1 w4 e* w/ H! q0 k
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
: F8 w& M' r0 \$ c9 dresale price in February is evidence that past prices
& j7 Q8 ]1 A. z  i9 Yexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
4 u6 D8 s! Y; l8 R% d* chomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’  h1 B. {( L, o! W  t
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 m7 U, A' ~$ u" U- h+ U
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
1 N1 i/ Y7 |0 e  E2 T/ f5 SAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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4 t, h  X# a0 J' @9 k1 F0 O; ]7 u/ A[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments, U/ n" y+ G4 m# m  r- D
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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