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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.! C* a& v1 G5 Z" [. \% t* W

2 l6 U. v4 S" Y( nTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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. d( X8 X* S* v3 R4 w0 JThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 9 I  ]& Y, F. S* t

; V8 O( S5 x4 W"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. , \5 n' r) M: L% |7 B

# O' c+ Z: A: W+ JNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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, y$ k( I$ ~% P, m3 [3 J9 pTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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9 F+ c/ L- l6 Y; @"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. , Z+ w# l& v6 O6 z; }$ u" `! j
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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: v: Z% e* P& qMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. $ [$ L8 K9 n/ I( V9 Y
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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+ ]& F  m, T, e: w; \* mTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。# e& r" {4 U2 B/ p* {7 ]4 x6 d2 A
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
: z+ @9 J- B6 ^2 {跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

. z' g, b: k/ D% H; c. `很多人都回学校深造去了
8 p! q* i5 t6 V2 v嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 b; w6 b; [) b2 B4 bWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its" B+ q1 f& `: h. d5 A
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
3 w( F( i' J" s$ Q( gare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to0 r9 @8 b6 q, X2 X+ x  N' r
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
# S6 b; `/ R$ T% k# tformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided$ [* n2 d0 ]: H
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,% W. O) b: X  g/ p8 b; P/ I% T
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
" i/ i9 n+ G0 s4 Pmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
( j" K8 T' x6 P2 x5 c9 Cpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed$ d. Q3 t) F- i; B
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
4 n. G" i( H2 ]9 xto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
  Z- Z6 K  r2 @9 B% j1 fprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
4 w3 y6 ]; T6 b. L8 _year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,# Q8 |' ~: A( B" c) h* ]. @) |
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around" o4 J: E: F" O  E
30,000 new households will form in the province during6 I9 y$ A% N4 R% |; y# o
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.& p) M. _8 z2 W+ b9 u! w
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( p& l" t7 J/ Q$ i! a. b7 @& X7 s3 d
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%  E( ~+ r/ S/ M1 r& d. A
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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. L9 k- L) ~. ghouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals9 b( s. ^$ z  o2 V7 ~8 x
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
" O% u$ h" C9 Y% ~sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories0 c0 M/ H& x: q; c  R
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is/ O5 Z1 i7 P% l6 J% h! `3 W1 b
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of6 ^$ y  ~% a1 L
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a6 E  X# y  s5 I0 x
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
7 d7 p" \. y# {/ R( V6 Ebuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in" t$ ?5 M1 N( n: c3 j
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in2 q$ i  Y# C$ x: U5 X- }' k  ^
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
  c9 }5 R6 S" \5 H+ n$ kunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
  d' }+ n6 s% h8 A( _recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the4 {* n6 E# V1 B. Q& q4 {6 m
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
& f1 ~* v* a( M: ^major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
& O$ _9 n5 Q" o8 B, u+ f, s) _of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
7 Z$ _' R6 \0 N  }4 a- v/ o9 q6 brapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
, R1 A+ C$ z6 u" `% r) o6 GThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
9 i! Y$ l% y1 e/ H4 A: O) kboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.. K6 V% M% p5 N7 |  @) N3 K6 l
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
, x9 A; G0 t1 ehousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced( `2 ?  m5 [+ F
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale+ _/ e! ]& P, C+ a- `8 a
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even8 b' q. G, R8 C6 v+ o6 {
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners" ~' }0 q% X6 z. H1 F
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
% c0 ]" C1 x* O0 {# zThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average/ o* f$ C1 X8 B
resale price in February is evidence that past prices# D8 s: L5 E# n: C: L3 M! `# j
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
4 B# f; r( [9 |) T4 hhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; w3 g; D2 B2 I! o# B" b+ Q
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,# G! K/ C2 _" X5 a8 o6 N% H
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' N3 T" E. M# U- c( e; t% ]' u2 Z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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9 q+ [- L2 L3 R[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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- R0 N8 l  s6 B' V$ q1 ^[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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