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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % P+ O& C4 V) X* Q" y- ?
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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9 X" [5 x/ s4 |, [4 q; h% k, V"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.7 z, V! k0 k! A" ]/ @0 [

* a" W+ ~  }3 s6 R# Z! L4 sTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ! s$ ]/ p; Q- m; t3 T8 u7 L
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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; D* t+ [5 o3 M# F( iMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. . t+ Y/ M: ~9 W) i: Z
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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/ g- |  r; x: W' FTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,, Q6 c% I; c4 i7 O1 f
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。2 V) v3 L" O* W/ N( E: R
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。+ J' [% E: i7 R. s9 x) ~$ j
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
- u! l$ ^& N: N% S% J6 ]跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 a2 z( I" g' ?8 ?很多人都回学校深造去了' r4 h3 M7 K! x
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
( E2 \$ d, v# \0 BWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
: d5 ]6 c% b8 uboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
8 k) J$ A9 c" N' a1 ?0 Qare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
- w' E( X6 a! |2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household, F7 j- H7 S' e4 V
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 n/ U% G; |: U3 B" h
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,0 G" M) A, [4 X( W& P" z8 C) V0 M9 p) H
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and" |2 p/ Y, l3 V5 e: o8 O
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous' V3 c; g1 ~. V) D$ Z, n
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed( Q) \" `4 n3 f; l3 a5 K
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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% K' m9 \! U3 j. M) K, p" Wprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this0 h+ S, j& W# M( K" m! p( @& k  V
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
  V( [, b! D, z1 I4 Y& _9 T9 u& ?9 {homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
0 W" m. j& Q! m( r! L# j1 ^4 ]30,000 new households will form in the province during0 [5 q3 y0 x9 F# P' X, d
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.6 @: R! Z% J. O5 E
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s' v1 I- w+ S8 d* s
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%7 [6 Y' d; J% l8 X: L" j, Y# V6 Q
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  c% y1 p) G  R$ X& M
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging8 M! B( s/ t2 T, ?
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories! ?0 M, R2 }9 w* Q9 t5 k- L6 Y3 ~
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
0 t- n+ _  k/ T9 Qexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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" ?; N* J$ g2 r# Msales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive4 t5 ^3 }4 v2 N  G" A" }) y) n
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: v8 M: y- ^  y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
/ _; V. l' Y. r: B' y% t1 n6 srecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
2 O2 `% ^: s0 {/ k' D& d3 @resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s9 p4 N. v0 ^! H; E$ f. G
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories2 {: w$ y5 t. s& n& q
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled; i& g6 \" \& ]6 \3 u% P
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
& ^1 r6 n% V5 z( Z! H8 I$ {The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s! a+ x3 F! ^1 v! S7 `# B$ z' R
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
2 l; z8 J# q2 c. M  h7 iAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%, R; d# W* ~6 ~
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,; v/ E) A  R9 S0 m( g9 ~" {
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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7 N3 x6 D$ \; ^http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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9 J' ?" H0 f1 z[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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