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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 4 W( C2 d& R  S+ x
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. + _, b' O" E- p

! L. F9 Q% O/ s"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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) i  o, N% @. aNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# h+ r, s4 ^1 D' Q( z8 A1 e1 u. }

( n% q' `8 t: U+ @% E; J) `TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.+ Y4 C- S. T; c2 x
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 3 O; ?4 n) L  Y5 x+ x

( }8 g  C! X$ j% p5 R1 a4 `$ ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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6 i! l& _, v" kMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。. b7 \, C1 N1 u- ]+ v& h
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 % d8 r6 W, b3 t0 C
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
; n2 ~1 J9 K' e% I1 X7 JWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its7 N8 u5 h6 O: S
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton+ c, M7 v5 ^$ ^4 A/ S0 W- y
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
5 W2 R, c' o3 Q8 H5 ]2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household. O" Z6 B2 k# F5 F$ G
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& G5 @! y( Y6 m8 F' R' J- d. c
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,9 G( p( }! d; S2 L$ h; d% Q: k0 x
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and0 I% g. m9 x1 }$ d: {8 [1 {
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined0 T: \0 N5 Z/ u  F, L
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
- A* `5 F! f. d: d1 U, Kprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around$ e# ]4 f" c( ]; |5 O6 q9 W& n" l
30,000 new households will form in the province during' H. H/ X0 Q8 |- T, [
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
/ f) [" t' P5 a* p$ f6 S3 d, BEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
  R+ |& e9 _" I3 r0 Q4 fhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
: ?$ k# U: p6 y0 A" M( r6 R; rduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta3 |. X: c6 G2 v$ y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
( d* t8 N7 W" k. m- Y$ lhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals2 b# W, g/ b* _1 \( j
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging6 k0 A6 V9 l# k/ y* N( n1 x& l' U
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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2 Y: W' q; Z' q, uexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
5 o' j4 {' I! sbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
+ b7 U; W- \, S. i; Ytwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
7 C% i$ _* z/ lunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale  k( d% t# N& Z, Q7 r0 t
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.; u- o7 _; W% q' [2 y7 {
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories," W- ~2 z! B% [
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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