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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.* `7 V* e/ v& a6 q

  Y3 j3 [; M$ U7 \2 iTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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4 E1 E+ I: }& h7 s5 [2 k% N"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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8 s2 j  e. F; C4 UNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.  t: J* W: b9 y* X; u/ w% m% K

4 g% _& j; ^$ ?TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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- ?6 a* L' u" J0 Y" R. v! @"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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, j: w& ]: B& u; `% j$ lhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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3 e9 N* B  N" |5 @# ]; sTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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8 P9 ^( n. r9 a9 o( K[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
1 @1 ^2 X: p. @3 W- c* ? 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。/ B0 z2 M0 ]9 ]7 S
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
( P& O; m9 W( n! D" ~$ q3 L跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

7 |9 Z$ [; K  Y很多人都回学校深造去了
* u7 J( J$ o0 L) B2 U9 L3 Q嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to, c0 U/ X* Q' C& g% U- ^3 P9 `) k
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ `4 V7 ?3 h! x) R! e
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided. ?) n* k) {3 Q
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,  Y) v! Q+ F- R! K, e; A; G: a
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; l0 n9 Y1 ?) Z7 R0 wmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous: m( Q9 Z5 m, ~
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
' q5 ?) q+ `! j$ Nprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 w1 I% F/ `& M, G% W) g3 Y& u
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,* L) x8 C- K2 Y- }9 W7 u/ G" }
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around7 c$ f1 o& W; Y8 L- `- f
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is1 j& A; R! H2 s8 B3 }  M& x
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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2 ~: e- \" O0 W+ wsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive, h6 `- M  @) o% b/ ^1 w0 \9 f, D* {: a. L
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest! _- {4 l7 O# g5 u9 B7 Q, z
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the9 E6 p  f/ G/ h$ m
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s6 E3 ~& g. o& P. Z# E
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories. d; T1 n' N$ m7 ^8 x- c3 W$ L+ J
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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4 k5 x( M1 |8 a1 u2 VThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan  |4 r/ Q- ?& F, W' r. J( r
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced2 w; N1 k  @8 X! ~. W
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
9 [5 G) |- u* \# jprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.2 }5 y6 t: F/ |6 K
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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5 D( s. g- B  ~3 Y' UAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments& }) l/ X  Y4 o
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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