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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics." c* K& P/ A+ [" r8 p0 d

- a: G2 q" ~& f- _' L  qTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 1 L0 Q% y5 V: T% N: ~

% B# e' f0 U2 QThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ! ^0 y$ O5 X: ^9 l& J6 ^9 j5 M- K, y
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.7 J4 E: Y) z. [( k! M
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.* A7 u( q- T4 b5 g. j) a
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 3 F/ h4 J6 p& m) w

8 O  B7 Z& _* Y* V! `TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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) o7 j- T9 V( q" V- dMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. - w4 ~6 m3 k0 @4 O$ i, V' D
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,  ?0 K7 @! d9 j3 k7 A
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。3 K& D6 v& _' |; d5 v' X# J
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 + E% o2 m" K. h
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
7 a1 {: E- q; \5 I6 Q4 IWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its/ W8 h/ u3 U* ^
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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" M$ c6 Q; K3 E& D0 R, y2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household9 y7 w6 M5 D: O7 o7 }+ n8 u( ^. e
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- G" S" {$ f" m8 T. o% Xfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
/ w1 [/ K! N6 V# e( H4 g2 Ythe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and8 {$ j) g( o8 {8 z- n
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
& ]/ p- b9 h+ O+ qpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed1 n4 N# s8 f. {7 B! r3 M% H
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined9 l$ C5 `* k8 Y. ~* Y- y: s
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year& K  F2 \! ^1 C; T2 |1 Y) ]; P
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this3 O- ~( M$ K: j0 l- Z  l
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,) Y5 z0 S. g+ l: Z1 c
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around$ {$ ~+ e7 t* F% Q
30,000 new households will form in the province during
/ A1 h7 q% d( ?( g  }! i2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
; j% T: r! P+ I- h5 g2 n. h. d8 VEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
# J* x& J% n) r3 `$ Y- g6 J8 Hhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 ~# S2 y* k5 Y. d# M' Sduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta5 Q4 J. e& `) L6 V  T
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging% a/ I4 J  T. d& {5 a& M
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories9 y) ~6 G* y% [& v% P  |2 T. @9 D* E
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
0 `! w( e$ u$ k9 V0 xexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of' c' x6 B2 t0 q7 a; N) ~6 t  s' d3 w
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a5 I: [" c# z" Y
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 ]4 G( a+ }( Z3 W! o
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in8 h) q2 a7 a/ B+ {, D. s, E8 G3 u
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in: H+ m9 h9 ?$ j' o  Q
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the: M5 Z0 B' N4 l3 K
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
) \: w* M8 e9 I$ }' j9 t3 Crapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.# K1 d7 ~' r; x- u4 |
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
# k+ W6 B2 h# Y: tboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
4 Z* |  b' ^0 r1 \0 ~8 d2 e- p4 w& OAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
: O& D2 D& y' o# e) h& J; @$ R$ ]housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced5 ~$ i& g/ b  u
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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: J0 Y7 ~% `" Q! Bthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners: f3 e( [, S  a# }9 D
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.) E+ k+ I% g( d: ^
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
/ h5 r( u8 ?" o( j8 Q& x1 Wresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’& d. C0 z# q3 N- v$ t' \
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 O& p! u: i# F* x& k
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 U7 c; H0 i$ N7 o
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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