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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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+ Z3 C# {+ M8 {1 O  `4 i"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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$ ?. Q6 }8 \0 X% }Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.+ L- V; L0 |# G3 ~
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.+ Y& ]' v0 A3 |

+ |* J# c; Q& _9 v/ |$ B"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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2 R4 y8 U! I( V! `0 sTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.- g! M4 O0 l6 }: l, y5 g, M4 s# x

0 O* s5 H! ~" e* s# H( P! w; HMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。2 K& Q) f# |$ n% p8 `2 r
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
- I/ G2 Y/ R! t0 x/ S' K跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
' c6 U. }" a6 Q; ~+ }嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta# Q- [1 r7 o! A9 `9 ?; o
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
" @6 j* n3 p9 j" `# L/ {1 F. Sboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
+ H0 n2 m$ [) {/ v# P" v: Z4 pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
; q% W1 Z/ |& z) v) u9 Y; o2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household3 ?0 K9 y1 @" p9 u7 c4 B
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided; k( w, d' v7 ^/ l( u
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,1 b6 ~  a! [+ B+ `! G; A2 q
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
/ D1 y; o# Z9 [8 D: \& zmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
3 }8 s8 H1 \9 O4 l* @8 upace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed1 e/ j# ?' O8 _8 l/ ]; i
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined1 A1 m- t; C* R* j! |
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around: E& Q9 L+ v1 U, l. N$ [' I/ E
30,000 new households will form in the province during
! [  b9 M2 S. ?4 ]: \8 `% l9 g2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
4 @4 H8 L3 E7 A& b7 ]0 GEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
. t: n. k9 Z- B6 Hhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%3 g1 W* e) P8 t& x
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta- f  S4 E+ A. }' ^8 H1 j7 c
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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! o* `5 p. M9 F3 Pexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of3 l5 C8 H( v( F) F( j* B9 t
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
/ C# F$ H$ q+ B' A6 e" Rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
7 Q& y  d. l" {0 K' V+ W0 [buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# c4 S6 ^0 D  P$ ~# `# R/ I) w
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in+ l/ J( R; m" K# H) C" C; o. z& r
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747$ U) T4 P3 b0 K1 J' R3 C& P; o; ^% }
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest$ {3 A0 `% b+ w) p+ S8 u
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
9 U; ?& g5 h0 i6 xresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s6 g/ m0 i7 k/ d0 F$ r  o0 Q; }
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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* x/ f: B- Y4 lAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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) O* N# }" X+ P, B" T" C# H; wThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
# q- p6 ?* {: `; p* o2 hresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%8 j$ o( @! Q3 h( j
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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