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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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: c# N/ X4 C8 yThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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. d% G: i5 U5 ]8 p8 [% u& k"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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& B; N  a/ u4 g( h' nNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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* O! P/ O, x( D3 z" NTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 5 q4 M) x; W8 r6 T7 W' [' Q
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. + d" r, s$ n2 c6 F, }! \

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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( p1 C/ u9 O, Y) w2 ^4 nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
( A8 B. B* a* u( x/ Z 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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7 E6 ~3 I! }% t; {3 h[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
  n0 {/ l2 W( ]+ Z# E) d跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

7 R# O7 ]2 m9 m4 H$ t很多人都回学校深造去了4 f# c( i2 ^- A) b3 @( ]
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 P1 Z; O" V# n2 J/ P; p. RWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its9 A) R5 m8 l# U& R  m& {
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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; h" O1 M2 F7 V2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,( p, ~9 O1 X" V3 F! H
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
$ u* ]& e& ]( l$ j$ \" R$ @& {may even cease completely during 2009. The previous8 C4 W& m* n% `( K% i( C
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
/ d- a. t! S& i# h1 H' Wprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this1 @# x6 W( k/ k
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around- p* g# ?$ D; M
30,000 new households will form in the province during* ?3 _7 j8 I4 L
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.7 W8 \0 j6 ^& W( I$ r* z
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
+ e$ L8 k* B3 X3 P( m4 S* B- e3 Dhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
# B% S; V% [6 v/ Ahouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
: N$ r" O% U2 w. x1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
8 E  D1 n6 w6 ysales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
9 _" G6 }7 y9 [6 G2 U# ~  Q% Rbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in) H% U7 I+ y* s) }4 N/ r* t* H
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in  V) a# T6 [# A2 \
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
/ o' `' Y7 [  U5 j7 xunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
4 n  B# [0 J1 V3 srecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
1 `1 d% f, W+ ^0 w* Jresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s( ~6 k& o9 _% ~4 P" c3 G/ c# K
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories% k+ Z5 M5 w) \2 c8 r" X6 ^6 J
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: o6 Q  M, o! R0 G6 D: ~% o% H. X
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.1 i* t. s: _, t8 C7 v2 E
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan6 {3 X2 |: A  O  e' ?
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
, k, Q7 `+ h: i1 gthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 p9 R/ }, K6 ]( b6 [on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
4 G, ?( N0 N1 ^  |7 g" I- a: ^The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
5 P" Y; M! `) l) [. Oresale price in February is evidence that past prices- ~: v9 }4 q7 s& Y! |' d, w
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
6 k. u7 Q- e. d. m0 R1 W: j5 Uhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’/ `7 q$ R9 l( k0 w$ Q
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 T+ O; |* i8 u5 S0 t8 x: r
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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