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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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8 w2 s0 f0 y& G$ x# j! GThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. , M; s) f  W( O" j5 R) \; u" p6 j. A

0 T9 Y& g9 A0 w6 u  o. A7 ["Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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) N( L6 k( Y4 a6 sNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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  L! _6 Y# z5 sMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- Y) ?, S3 U$ A2 ?4 U1 H# M

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
; ]5 L+ r2 h/ i5 W; m1 a+ d 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 " A3 J5 d  n; e8 _$ L7 V0 j
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
7 G# U8 q# X8 u# eboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton+ c9 j& n- j' F" V/ _: t, I' C* r
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
( @9 W# k" w+ a5 Y8 t( b; Y2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
; s' k: o" `) m6 O. Mformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
' R/ _/ [& G/ l9 }2 G' E) @from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
7 N$ p/ {2 T  r. H4 f# pthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
9 X. N: X7 d' d7 Qmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
/ a/ N! r7 e2 [& bpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: x0 e& C  q6 ]! P# B- J/ X" Y, Bprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ w1 D9 m) w3 y  t2 a0 H6 a" e
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
: ?' j+ j' L% ~- Pprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; V; x5 k5 f# b6 X
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
8 A3 y( s7 F; ?# K- @( ]& P! I& Fhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around7 B; X- U% j: `+ `$ ?6 x7 J/ u; r$ U
30,000 new households will form in the province during( j2 v7 w( i- Q
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
# [# d. x% }( ]3 J3 w0 PEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
; w3 W7 L! E( R4 ]homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is( K, L: L, k) c! g
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
1 F1 ^5 @' B$ f1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a% F: t! a/ j# f, ?+ R1 b
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
1 g! e7 i! F( Y5 f! h" Vbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
3 _7 a" X* g+ J$ btwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in& q1 @1 v: q! M; ?0 q6 ?/ ?
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
4 A) G4 o+ |/ [* |# f4 Q0 U8 @0 Funsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& Z, Y( k/ B6 o  krecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
  T& w' j: m7 V3 n# jresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s% C: a8 ^+ W! s$ Q2 P% r% h
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories8 a! r; w+ V" y8 k) O$ Y
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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5 ~' f7 p! m: R7 RThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s7 A- b9 l# y- ~; V
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
* |4 g$ S8 Z9 Y- nAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan  \) b$ ]: I: m6 h3 Q. F7 l, o9 S" b! i
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
& Q+ [  {7 a) r+ x' {relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale( v% q4 n9 j8 N- O! ]. l2 R
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.. y, U+ C" r) Q. x! n. X5 x5 d$ q
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average6 H2 w7 Z' j0 k4 l1 s0 l  ?9 B
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
: Y' U7 `/ v1 a/ Nexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009." ^  D' a# i5 x* Q9 W3 F
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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7 F& J* O" E/ X+ }/ K3 ?+ b[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ' e' o- ^- `0 @
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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