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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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* T) c. v$ r: g. `- H5 CTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ; T2 y' \9 X# t  ~' L  j

5 r0 ?) t2 m2 g" jThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 3 e. E; e4 W7 {; f! F# k
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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7 t# i+ N3 q4 J  _1 |Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.6 E" e, ^  i, }1 N9 Y" I

. q. h7 T# x5 |TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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! X, D+ V" i0 Y4 {8 C; M  L"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 6 o$ q0 H& I( S

3 u$ Z7 a$ v5 Z" w9 WTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year./ D/ |, u. ~. j  C

) ?9 R) J& x0 Q' V0 HMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! M( t/ R+ ~4 k' B7 U9 V

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,& B* ?: T7 I+ b. V" n: h

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。& v4 K& `. m. O  E
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。7 F8 c# ?3 @# z/ m0 h. b* C  k
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表   D! K! z; q9 a
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了' F: |, d8 Q3 s2 _1 S1 S) J0 b
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta- N( X9 T0 g$ y9 Z# E
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
' W% k' a3 S2 P9 \- E6 e3 bboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton3 `7 z- s0 e. q3 N, `
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to5 N0 q: ~+ ?* B* C' ]
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household- `: u7 Q1 l8 m+ q- L
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
" T( [$ i  [2 v8 g5 X: ^from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 d0 O) j/ N# Vthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and: l% x) v7 j7 @- T+ _" [
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous# V7 R  q5 Y6 E- v8 U
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
+ ~7 u# O9 a7 X, K7 Sprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined% P1 {5 k& X+ D# C
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
3 S3 W2 |* e; L4 G: mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this9 ^6 d; m% Y( o7 a, n  ?
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
/ f0 j* u7 l5 r9 Ohomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around) y& g. B( E7 S7 v% w( i
30,000 new households will form in the province during: q" S% A: `7 a
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.) ?& g0 `( v3 L# X
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s2 k# d7 t' t" }- p3 R* U% Y
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
- w. r0 o* N- a. I  ]5 W" s  Gduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta. l1 q; ?. c0 U$ ^" r& `3 o
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
8 g$ S* P3 b( x7 Ihouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals" z+ Y/ @( S- R; `( H
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
9 V. @1 G# U3 a- k7 fsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories4 e( {4 {  Q4 W" T& L) U5 j
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
0 q  E0 B  {5 `! k6 \excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
2 I8 R* I# m) q1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
5 t% N6 j2 V, E3 E2 asales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 ~( z$ a* m4 J4 qbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
, b- C) U" q+ Ltwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, n/ {( |  k6 z2 w  @2 V1 a( cunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747, B# t- I$ C3 `( J" M
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
# b2 j" j( P  C  K  |, orecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the- g# z9 b+ ^# m7 S& t
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: b; p5 O  c2 O7 {0 ~: _
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.* H+ K- }2 M4 K9 a1 `
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
) {$ j. J% f. ?5 P; u, Wboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
7 y/ J! F" R$ X8 V  U& ]3 q  [Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
6 W1 |+ P" C/ x+ z$ x) ?% Thousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced+ I+ }: I/ N7 W3 |6 [3 [
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale# L6 y; y; l! E% S
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
* v' ]: f7 h; @- O, M. l1 T; ^/ _: j+ Ythough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners0 t0 T0 x" E( M. q8 A2 y2 d
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.. o5 p' f' r+ L1 H# L
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average) j8 I5 Z7 d) ~# Y
resale price in February is evidence that past prices. R8 B$ U9 _" H4 F8 K5 r
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
5 Z% {9 `4 q4 q9 P: mhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
1 s* ?/ T3 b4 vdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
, @- B0 E3 c' x! x. ~, V" qAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%3 ]; {3 H2 W$ W0 E' y
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,5 M8 W% f" V% _6 a* H
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
( ]. u1 w% M1 i+ ]) k翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-10 00:02 | 显示全部楼层
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