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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.& u  p/ _* p" c( K

( i3 K/ l  j; K8 |6 y9 P' cTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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" Z) i: Q5 z0 H8 \9 ^"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller., \9 d. m+ P& d. _1 k# M

( ~! U! C5 w7 v$ ATD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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9 [0 q7 U) V# T( R2 X6 U. ~1 G( Z"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ) J9 H) ~# ~' o# t- ^7 e. M

% T: ]) o% o" m( l/ l# p1 ~) nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. - C" J; f  l  R7 i7 `; r& f

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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/ \- M& a8 l; j( ITD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。+ R9 a0 K3 Y4 v# A; [5 g  z
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。' w' D, S9 S& h6 p, i5 [$ B

+ i# f1 N/ E* O' h[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
. B3 F" Y8 g: H. n7 s跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了8 P" s+ {% Z' K2 m5 s3 T$ u1 Z
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
+ V7 B9 _% C  b! ?. F) h" \5 \2 Ware cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
$ \4 ?8 m  f8 T. i. U+ S0 O2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,/ a, y0 ]2 B+ b& C
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and- s# B3 }" x6 D! M3 ?' |. E) R% o' B
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
5 ~2 S# b. g4 t$ S7 `+ C( V( f5 ~* X" l5 rpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed, j% t8 E% ]8 t' w' d  O
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
2 S2 B" o& v: a2 z7 Pto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
3 C+ @& l* B" e0 D: `* o& Mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this' q) f4 K; L' L" i' R) q
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,% E, _  x" l, {- e& i! C
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.% y# O6 K8 ~$ }! x8 m) T8 O' y
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
2 A# Z. U; a+ r6 l: s1 t; m: [  Xhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
6 O* h' f4 ]$ X+ Nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
. Y6 R; h2 ]# {& O- ]( e4 chas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories$ a$ ?( r6 _/ f
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is2 d0 ?, B" g, {
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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" Y( q1 `; u$ R; @sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 ]7 n9 {: @& ]0 W& ^3 H% v, Q
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# B# d8 k4 j; L) E3 c0 H1 S: R0 m
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in- I/ d! ^' t  T7 a0 j
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7473 y2 E5 D% C  z% Y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.4 P! L: A) B1 u0 V/ Y2 ?8 p
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s4 h) L9 p1 h% T5 Q. \
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.3 }9 h) H6 \% N* f0 ]7 |4 b
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners% I# a) C' F6 Y. w# p, {
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
# w6 B* W% v3 W( }: hThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
0 D* u# C( S' eresale price in February is evidence that past prices6 |: U( s* M$ Z7 Y$ [
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
6 Z3 A  y, l; o& a* _+ V- Ihomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’2 ]9 a: X  q: d% l/ H4 v
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,5 {4 A( W4 u# D, g8 ~  e
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
6 p4 |/ l( |( \! F+ yAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. + G9 P; g; ^2 q0 T
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子  J5 a3 ~0 X# s$ s7 \

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