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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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3 f4 G* l; u. j3 MTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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" J. B! j  U6 j8 g* f4 VThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! z8 S/ w5 I+ ~, Y

, s" [6 e8 k8 t/ u( t5 U! Y"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 5 V' x4 ^2 Z- a4 I8 o  X$ s! I
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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" i( O( E& L# B  }' oTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. - n# V2 r4 ]3 i
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.8 ?( _6 A* F3 Y4 b* j
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ; d# }% P; L) ?- T) `% q! e$ C2 B4 L

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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( u' p" D  S2 U" f[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
; E+ x% `  d6 w8 d, p; a( a& W 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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4 Q( x/ ~" z; I[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 & j9 e6 O* Z  x) @
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
5 c4 _9 L0 i3 c: ]) i2 ofrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,9 j. N( k! F* L/ Z+ P5 O+ ?
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and  m( T& ^/ y0 h( ?9 o
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous+ ?+ `6 ~" e# J' e
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
6 F5 h0 M& P( R( Nprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined2 [. J: e9 l( K6 q: F! ?
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year" r4 b5 r6 J! _
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this* n4 O) G) c4 F* n
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,$ i% e0 n- M, U: ~9 C* j2 {
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 o! M7 m" E* y" \8 Q' M  b4 f0 ?1 }" b
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s) I% C& L, @9 H1 I! k4 T+ B5 `
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%- P' ]2 {* B0 u; H, J! z
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta& D. p9 d0 ^5 Z' [' i. x9 E
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging/ E( Q: l! j. u1 |9 R* D0 ^. w
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories: g5 Q" \' Z# Q' D4 I1 E
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
8 Y; o& p# v0 x; {, J& u+ j/ gexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of" S& U3 O  @- `" }, l
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a! h% c- `( z' `4 j' T, S
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive( @4 c4 A1 B% W: u' E/ l: k
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& Y! s* g) h9 R" r: O5 m' }
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in5 z  I2 j6 j7 o2 [9 {/ Z" J
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
; S8 X6 ~7 [0 r4 S6 Q/ hresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.$ m5 c. Q# S2 I: L. O, D# u$ ]
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 _- {/ g/ K( I( s( Thousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.# c/ W6 p8 z9 C5 t# c) g
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
3 J. j8 }: p3 O3 ^! ?resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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  w, r* B1 U. p4 j8 P$ N7 N. Vhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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+ X7 Q6 k) ]% ~2 m* _% _Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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