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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.3 U" N' _: g+ h3 v; ?2 l3 B) @2 v

* W1 e1 ?& T/ r( k+ O- dTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 9 S9 G, L  o. n

: h. j& v- }" G# w" m) qThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ' t  c# V' ?; d& C( i
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 1 Z( ~/ O! e4 C) _) r

+ o$ P, a5 w4 F) ENow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.8 W) E3 `' d6 V6 x

9 ^+ h1 G! y& m"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 8 _& V8 P/ y7 E6 W) f+ S( o1 z# F
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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9 ~& J! P0 U7 o: ^% d, xhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,4 [- J6 V: X* j7 H
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
, l' y. ?; {4 ]5 u. e 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。$ @- H( n# ^" Q/ }8 J' f

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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
. W0 S  O9 d- g跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了7 C$ k3 I6 Y7 Y1 R1 Z- Z1 x" p
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
+ H# k* r" j' O9 F' NWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
; K' z8 p6 O- p4 n  oboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
! h2 J0 b* y- O# Z6 i% v' A. dare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
: E! m9 h3 I, Y# y% k- k2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household7 g3 l5 ]: ^/ ?! f, ^
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: U* ~: y$ I6 \/ w- w
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
# {, X: R, a6 l; Z) Rthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and4 w) B1 ^$ ~" b" n
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
! ~6 K/ l6 l9 d4 _. fpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
0 F) n0 E& r- Rprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined" ]/ i9 u( O" S% g
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% a, f/ R* J% e( sprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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6 g5 z8 f" F1 {homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ a; a0 j2 ]/ Y: G
30,000 new households will form in the province during
) O, G7 N( V9 x- B( i2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
! l8 v1 ?2 W+ i" BEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s8 c1 U1 D8 d8 W/ s
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%8 K/ ]. b2 y6 O$ H( U4 v6 p
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
6 ^. A5 ?, j3 b2 ~8 phas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new( z: l: H1 V1 m, ]0 D7 C
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals& {2 O- w7 i% T+ O1 }
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging3 z6 B9 e* G% P  H6 V
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories4 t' y  F$ f) L2 S% R, b1 K. V
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is! w! J4 i" ~0 a; N$ b3 Y2 ~
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
6 m) _: _* `: r* N: {! v0 H/ i1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
, k& Y4 I! j3 S: S  i3 zsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive& g9 \+ P; I/ `+ C% ~3 z
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# p, K" D) v- U& Q
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( E1 m7 {4 D4 r5 W- Vunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: x* i, U, ]* f0 M# c( ~
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest4 H8 _  g" X$ h" j) `4 e/ A( ?
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the8 j7 z$ C  {/ P, ~* a) a# a" I
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s8 z+ H5 P$ a+ `, k& g9 G0 _' b, Q8 T
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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2 `% j" u% F* ~# p" xrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated./ ^3 L/ r& ]* q4 A- `" C; W! T! i3 _
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
* t1 N' e) ^7 {! uboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
5 o+ ^% }7 P* f6 y+ c0 ~2 LAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan0 O2 }# k9 a" b4 Q. }( j9 i
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
- R7 }7 L# s& k) u' ?relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
9 ~( H0 y( Q" h* w/ i8 [prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
6 N$ l/ L, p( j8 I' S" m6 o8 O1 Z2 ~The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average. a  h  y) |2 W5 R
resale price in February is evidence that past prices) Z5 v9 X# f- n8 X( ~
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove  B8 M& i0 l# G; ]3 E& Z
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’0 l  `8 E3 \# g% a
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
$ u. o: R, ^, F0 HAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
7 Y+ u' {% B2 l+ c9 E0 CAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. - l8 p3 f. ]& p9 J( A
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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