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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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+ K) M" K, E$ u& b& x! nTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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& F: _# i# h8 x. M0 u6 `The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ( u/ O- F$ ?& O0 r* {  \
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.   q" L7 y5 K) [8 y& y  M% P

( `' K# L5 A2 K$ {2 ONow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.7 i* W; k' p' n; ], N( r4 U
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ E% Q/ Z5 X$ h+ s2 g4 t) _8 S5 U
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
4 ~$ h8 H; y$ H5 R 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 * m4 g' T6 T7 y( \' V
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

- N3 v# V  ~& P. Z" j! c6 C4 v很多人都回学校深造去了+ ^$ M- b8 C; [8 G3 _& n0 h
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
$ u# T6 `. t+ g$ F& u6 p/ vWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its2 s& s; U: I. y, y. Y4 _
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton5 Z! Y5 J7 d1 K# q4 \
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
0 V  \6 F* F; A0 f+ i' V2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household7 I1 i& ~. c( v3 S
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
) T0 J% t5 J5 M* t" Qfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,3 {" r4 b' b  ]% H
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and/ G2 P: q; \: l: K: o
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined' n' v* M! _! `% W* M5 k
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year0 R% u5 a7 k7 k* l2 A& ^$ V
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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, W7 {8 k* z( Bhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
# n# R; g+ y" ^; v30,000 new households will form in the province during
0 M3 [/ F- ]7 A1 R' ~2 G( ^1 ^. u2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
5 t" b3 L: }: a, ^7 `- d6 vEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
4 \6 F+ g- E# B$ u& u1 Ohomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
1 V% w. t, M# V. d4 L+ j0 Nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals" w9 n  d, M0 H0 Z- U  a; W5 M
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging0 ^$ u, H4 Y6 S" \: d9 K* ^2 z
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
# ~8 L/ [2 m9 x& B5 B0 b1 A9 pclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is. B3 w2 u. G( ]7 Y: z0 W" F# \
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive; t  i& I- [  p" N: O; _9 k( i
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7471 P+ Y( `# k# m# `# [
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest! X. l( O' t' }$ A- z+ ~: J6 f
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the& t+ v6 P, t) p, i% p5 X/ `$ U
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
- S' M- O6 N0 @8 c7 vmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories9 ^2 {! t) U- O* H# p9 I
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.& t* b; Z# L1 C* w
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
' L2 [# V7 h% Y2 Shousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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5 F0 ~$ D' o+ P5 N1 dprices substantially eroded affordability and, even2 ]4 w1 A' A3 `7 E. }+ P  @
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners3 A) P) T" K( `
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( K: L8 X) t) p$ z
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average2 r( j( d6 ^: A) t  R
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( ]) Z' H- u7 Q2 F: ]0 ?" f3 U! H9 O
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,0 m# L7 V  E- c/ F
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-10 00:02 | 显示全部楼层
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