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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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; ?% X; _/ S0 D6 {; ATD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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4 d  Q& @# r, Z# E4 lThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. # }0 s' E! g4 z( l1 [3 u7 N

7 x6 L; p9 L6 N"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. + p, t$ {2 O1 I& n; x
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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; X# P' `; Y# z4 k% VTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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4 y. A$ l. J9 t: k5 f5 Q4 Z9 F"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. & Z* l  H0 k, a  e: p( o

$ w+ v1 k8 K: x9 p: D0 [7 T- _TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.% u" ]( N5 J4 M5 p. u) c& M0 {

* c& v+ y. o' h; sMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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3 o5 B% I4 W4 ^  F7 Rhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。: R; q  \* |4 O/ K4 u
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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; h; k, {- ]. H[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 . S1 |9 O8 i! v. k9 i) m5 \; T& K9 }
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了; s+ f/ g% X9 x% p
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 k; y+ L! p: U: T. HWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its8 e' G9 m+ S5 A5 O' A
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton0 ?% s& q. f- g
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
; z( M- j, ^, j/ ]* J2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
: {* V5 Z0 k% F# Xformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- a/ J$ T! q8 H& ]- ~from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,& \1 n: [$ A- G8 d
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and$ T/ T( X- O) `+ a, \' Y0 W
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
/ C" }% [& i5 P, `( Npace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed' O) T6 r9 `9 l+ t9 q& T; {( u% a
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined4 k; o6 P5 X" f% l
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
  Q5 X0 c; J9 |$ z/ wprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this( p" X% ~" O$ v
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
# ^2 P8 ?& X4 ?0 B% @homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
8 O! K% N, o+ X5 F& e0 i30,000 new households will form in the province during6 M' [3 M" {+ t0 A: J# }8 J$ y5 {) E/ [
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
/ z, W& D* H8 X. y; tEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
- I, Y. U1 t, p/ j4 whomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%" i4 W6 C: V( ~" ~+ |: V
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta$ T5 ?3 i* ?/ g% p/ \1 T: ^# X
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new7 d- j- q2 e1 b( t# s( l. K2 Q
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals3 ?# J! I9 T3 Q
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
3 G" T6 y& {6 I" A3 qsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
, o% ^, }* M' `* m1 E4 e3 e1 Dclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
6 D3 ?, b& G0 d7 O0 x2 M$ L+ texcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
: ]1 V3 Z' a; O3 j1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a, D( S3 z1 h* z6 Y
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive- b! c, ^$ X8 R
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in! O1 C/ ^" Y4 O' t
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
. X3 A" d& m' ^8 t( wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: o! Z! E2 t0 Z# y* v# Y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest+ ~# S8 b/ n' s& i/ V- N
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. x- f; c1 T8 `: d5 o3 |& m/ mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
: F( k+ G8 a" B' yboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
' [0 S  X" Q' Q, X9 a' f* i! \8 EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
% k) x: u9 l9 Y5 a7 t9 V0 C' jhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
1 I9 Y' j. ~/ t# b0 ~$ b4 prelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
$ h8 G1 W) L7 q3 g& X! }, W2 Qprices substantially eroded affordability and, even, r; u, O$ B& s
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
9 Z7 D8 L1 f1 |) won average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.9 Z- c0 ^! ~" K
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average9 i- P* G$ M" ^3 s0 z; G
resale price in February is evidence that past prices: Y. e  K& r2 [: |  ?# H* i
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove! t4 u& y8 f2 `, S: J
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 x* [5 b; |% g# Q9 K
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: G  O) `& |& L9 V* p6 W; [2 b: X' L
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 b4 V# a- u8 f' S1 _9 F" j8 j! |
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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$ C- J7 x+ g, S; J3 ^[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
$ V# t- g0 O7 n( P1 j* N6 U+ C翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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# J8 b. L5 |4 H) Shttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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9 o7 O9 f5 ~) `. P% J: O[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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