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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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# u1 Q1 m' b* v# A6 M( }. w- GTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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$ |' k* Q0 I* u. A& B/ {' u' VNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.5 {7 i5 p+ i: ^, m! S

) l0 x7 x! }9 V. rTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.5 L2 y% ^4 Y4 q9 P2 m7 H" z4 E

- x6 j7 M. J4 t, W8 h* ~"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. : u6 b2 O, U; |2 m  A' `
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 w/ [2 P1 u& \4 `9 P

- @# j0 F) }: w! \Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,: M0 L" j) Q& x4 g2 E
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
. x2 R4 j( O2 b% v6 t 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。. U! p5 p  U4 b1 x0 `0 E( g% C$ w

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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 . d! C: _8 F: d9 C
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了- v' n* b5 a' n1 ]
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta) l3 j1 d$ ?; ?) |! x* T
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
4 G' Z5 r4 Z; r4 [boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
" L1 [2 B4 I# V* Y) x; iare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to% k1 T9 E& k2 G- b% ?
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
4 t( W. J, T  p; sformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
5 F8 p" C! n6 k8 ]/ mfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
1 C+ D& u1 o' n3 w2 V; Ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
( l' [/ u6 K; {may even cease completely during 2009. The previous: o+ r! E5 E8 a; V3 e7 l" k8 d# q3 {4 [
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed& Y& {5 x% v, R/ S. g
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined* g8 M  F6 Q+ e4 J" l+ y# d
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
6 o" }/ y- w7 l& E& fprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
& W" c# M9 x! ^year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
  d7 P/ R' t- N+ ahomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
- H! o6 }1 f  a4 G: ^30,000 new households will form in the province during
0 K2 o# q9 X/ N6 F/ E2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
6 [6 k) e1 o0 i" i+ IEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
3 g% J/ g, ^+ ]: X$ b* E" @- |# chomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
5 X4 I& Z3 s0 lduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta. C/ [% A/ _( K4 ?  r( p6 B
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is) W  }$ I0 A7 d3 p/ t6 I( Q2 i4 A
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of  a3 x* d) F/ q9 f4 B0 G; |
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a  k) p/ O; f# J  M. t0 ~
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 W2 `. {. ^3 \3 H! b2 ]
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in6 T% d8 _/ i% H+ m
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in5 `1 H) D! o0 Y
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
7 ?: q) v& e5 H5 x6 {unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 R0 V- B: l, S7 lrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
6 Q; f; E7 N; v1 A4 rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
  h* F% l$ w2 u5 A) arapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
/ Z+ g2 r+ e) ^' Z3 J$ Z1 U. TThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
; V9 F4 x0 H$ I- l% gboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.+ W: Z: h; t. y8 p
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan' f& q/ r7 a* U
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced! O2 ]; V( K1 s7 W
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners/ W9 z0 C" v: A; g# E  V
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( W; l- a4 K; d' J3 B' C
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
2 s* D) ^0 S8 w2 d3 `resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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8 Q; a* A2 k: [0 U$ K+ {homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 [, r" M1 z7 R
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
9 N. y+ d4 X$ w7 ?5 C3 L0 B! k2 BAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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