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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.7 v. x) q$ O" s3 l* {

* k, N; n" g4 M: q4 q5 FTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 3 A: B0 v- _- L! J7 w3 @( r0 p, D

; f- K) E3 d  C1 t  x* h% b; [Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller./ {' i! ?9 M) ?* G

* l' }, n8 c5 Z/ P# W: T1 _/ m, kTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.0 @3 l* s2 C6 J$ C
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. , R1 d, I, q4 q) z

  F$ r8 D: Y- G2 x$ l3 GTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ @; A$ w6 L' _
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes," K5 `5 Q2 u% {. o1 y# ?' e, N

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
# |5 f, c, E4 j' k2 ~4 k. p0 a 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , s9 f$ |) X$ Z& a
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 z" ~- I$ K8 G9 ^0 a' e. |$ EWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
" S; T6 f0 R' M/ x: L) }' m% Qboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton7 S" i$ `' E6 w9 o( X1 Z. f
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
! X7 {0 [! _0 k9 Q4 N+ V) I2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
) i- r3 j+ B% B, G" @formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
8 e/ s0 q8 n# Y1 E- C8 w' A+ V- Jfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
2 m" ~" ~+ \2 Q# R, Rthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and. l7 z+ X* b* e+ Z; K) _* C$ {
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
2 L1 _$ l, Q9 r! G- @( U/ h  gpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed* x# Y" o; B  n/ o1 z
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
% i1 B  f7 e0 S" L# hto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year! w7 y% z9 Z- L) n$ u" D3 r- `- G
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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: i' L* U: \$ M, x; d: ]$ ihomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around3 V/ i% ]2 ~% ~; T0 W! g# b! g
30,000 new households will form in the province during
1 {" @- P3 q9 x* n3 n2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.+ B0 z3 K, {& L, S
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
/ l. G4 j5 G; Qhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
+ C9 D7 I$ H1 yduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  z1 Q: r! r( b; t9 a5 r3 W5 g+ |
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
0 M! z4 J/ w9 U' k* xhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
7 k4 o* d) I% o- {# u0 F" E2 Tduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging2 a5 [) \4 y) N) J9 b
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
& i. {! V. o9 P! y: Dclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
( S  K- J  T: d. Sexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
8 `9 o' ?- B/ g2 @1 s. X1 f1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
& L6 k# d2 O% _' `' L; b% J5 rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
! M7 K6 i7 H% g% v7 G$ Abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in; A# N( f0 K7 q  K' c
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in& q  I$ E" N8 k% a5 [! a
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747  h8 M* m* {: D
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest8 }3 ^' m# ]6 l( A& ^4 z
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the8 q" b: F  n2 C- R! a1 D
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
/ V. v. q. m# n7 s2 N, g; H# umajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories9 k6 w3 d. v1 @& G$ G, X8 n
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
) V8 W  K* u3 C" s. P. p0 mrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.# t" a" c$ S$ f# R# b
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan2 B& P7 W0 n: P1 [
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced/ g4 i( b5 n. [2 T( d
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale" _+ g: ~1 `) w
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
$ p! X2 B! C% e# kthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
1 `: {% n$ r1 P2 S8 ton average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 v+ @9 O# N# TThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average1 f+ [8 |8 U( n" t% ~' P6 k
resale price in February is evidence that past prices8 Q. r/ R6 d+ J: Z; Y6 C
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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$ q, |: {5 F6 Z) g3 JAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%$ `- G0 K/ r0 \( }* Q$ q
leg down over 2009.% O! n8 V% i' T8 @  w3 J
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 X0 E( I; L3 P, l4 g# B4 J# _6 H' A
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments6 `& [: e' `$ g  F

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