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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics., s5 G. ~% K- Y' R  F
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 8 f; T! `5 R6 F0 |. f( S

6 R' J, C: Z7 @& fThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. - z' P0 s+ w2 N( @
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. - K9 Z8 @% b8 _: @! F4 V% Y8 A7 r
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.3 Y1 n2 X' U! a$ f: x0 ~
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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3 z( q+ N5 \: {# T9 `TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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0 C: |8 h% G4 UMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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3 G# \* |* @7 F% Ahttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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# ^$ t! h, s+ k1 RTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。. ^8 R- e* C) c6 Q  x
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ! f  t$ K3 b. h$ q
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

- O2 d1 v1 n9 v. w/ s很多人都回学校深造去了( D3 t9 ^' R/ u6 _5 V! i9 `; N
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
1 }. x! B, k  e" L) b4 _) m% FWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
8 [/ X; l. ~+ M$ ^boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
$ c" r  x0 c8 ^: f: C" D. gare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
7 S. W- p: n7 r# T$ ^, ~2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
. N' D$ k  ~- X1 w6 R( H+ m8 hformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
% u" P* d  ]* ?3 j. f1 efrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
9 M4 K0 T# q+ fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
- s- P) T9 q& ?0 L3 ]may even cease completely during 2009. The previous) y) s! p( F5 [. |, C; E* L
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed6 p) j4 r# o+ O6 X& v
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined" M  l9 O) Q* x; E
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
3 y$ \4 B% E% L( {1 ?. s! yprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
3 S1 v4 z1 i' e" s6 L9 L% pyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,' i! ?0 A8 V. a# N) q% g
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ e- \. S. K! x* ^8 @30,000 new households will form in the province during! [  T2 e) s% l6 R; r  k
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.% [3 P( e# \. S8 r9 A$ }' }% x
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta* r0 U0 f' ~/ ^# f
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new1 b# a: }4 N4 D  H& p
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals" [3 y. p/ v. i6 I5 X( u6 X
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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. L, {8 h1 k: d3 Sexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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$ h& M  I& Q+ P. Wsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive) R/ O8 X* ]7 n  w. s* R
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in3 ^4 Y' u+ v& V# O1 J! l
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, i. C% y+ c% j7 punsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7474 s9 S- u; ?. m
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest* M; w7 ?1 y9 H# P
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 I: s# y0 E5 }resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s2 s! @2 x( \# O+ _3 U% _
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories5 f% J. ~% ]2 I" X! Y/ c* W
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled1 }6 \7 w) w! i/ I, ~0 J  h
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
5 H1 g/ R' m2 B& K2 |( v# l" ~The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
' [5 n5 X  b* O- r8 r) @boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.4 G- N; \' S0 c# @- Y- _4 G5 s
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan: [( a: E9 I9 X0 h4 i/ q% B8 D; x
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced' }+ c6 C  Y+ a) l( u
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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, K( k% O- j/ y8 gthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners. D1 I" u% v& r. R' D# u; X
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.% [! e0 G5 S% W1 e+ r* s) Z$ P
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average: o7 ~' U  Q$ F2 ?) K1 b/ c
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
3 ]- q, C7 B8 r. nexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
0 ]4 x- W) ?4 J* thomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’* R# V% O' `' j: K
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( D8 h2 r9 v5 I  M% E& }Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
7 M# n! R' B' l9 t; x5 V" Aleg down over 2009.6 i: Q# E, b5 s

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.   i% a0 D' b" Y0 i& e& b% i
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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