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请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?) O+ W7 v0 c. h+ x" w7 r) _- v
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另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?/ t2 `; G9 a. E; c: g$ M  w

# _9 Y& I( }  C) }! @# X0 Ugoogle上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.# O, L+ B6 \5 Z: N, o

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2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta
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                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                * C7 u/ l, v. f, H
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                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 4 {, W1 x* Q# Q9 {0 C' I
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Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates; f+ t- W7 D( p$ Z7 G
                                                               
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                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore3 J& K) e% v" X9 v3 F+ o/ f
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                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].
% B4 F2 Q0 E2 C0 f! NThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year.
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However this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.3 w" \, \+ \/ ^) z! R2 w
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Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?4 H2 ]$ c' C% L! ^$ n: _2 H& C

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[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                               
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Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑 1 k; u" h5 C7 \% Y- _

5 y9 V( A. p' T! ]2 S- W! H谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
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It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑
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; S$ C2 G+ }7 o0 Z這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。6 J9 U9 y: u" ^; u$ @
之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。% J* }  W5 Z9 s8 v1 R2 I
之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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5 }( r5 Y, G: e1 I" D除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?
! r; T1 u1 L8 H1 L那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?% K. \6 p! C0 O3 C' o( r
中文翻译成叫林海峰,海林峰,哈灵峰?) v3 z& [/ g3 D$ z6 j. a# r& u

( M/ O4 E) @% ?4 ^/ ^另外广东话把lin读成ling,hai读成ha?
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  R; X6 L; ]  e+ M& n. l1 E- @多谢!
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑
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谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。% J* j9 {1 g2 r
放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39
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' f$ a/ x; q4 Z3 j3 {# W/ k3 k入门级更好了,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!
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他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。7 v/ d% g" |8 V2 [! L# a2 X

. M& q8 t- j, N6 qHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。
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: [* f) z! f9 f( k如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。( t& R5 f! i, B, A! [1 k$ K9 [" F3 U

9 S0 v2 l; {# @* S6 L5 A; @你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!7 \( M) s3 u. g7 k6 R

% d& D+ f2 X4 E2 I0 H9 ]" s* I他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。
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  W) s0 N: M- _. x4 G+ y6 n# `9 S$ p0 L  MHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 .../ n. F* P! ~* z3 t+ N  H
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22

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謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。
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1 Q; w+ k, ~% ]1 G; k在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
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