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看到很多人比照nait的管网的职业收入。应该说：这个数字有一定的参考价值，但是如果全相信的话，就错了。( G5 Q3 Y1 K! F
如何搜集一个专业的好坏，毕业工作的容易？我建议应该上洋人专业论坛。一般工作环境，洋人远远多于中国人，洋人的风向如何直接表面了中国毕业生今后的风向。中国毕业生找工作，平均而言，应该在洋人找工作的难易程度上，再加几级难度。! B3 R$ ?* b) Z: X0 w, E
) H8 b+ w/ z- O0 w+ p( I4 k1 q中国人往往不喜欢直面毕业后的竞争。最吸引国人的话语就是：这个专业好，毕业后100%工作不愁。当国人醉心于这些话语和传闻的时候，是否应该拿出你上华人网10%的时间，看看洋人毕业生的论调呢？5 q4 O. ?8 R w8 U: U
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国人看到石油专业“好”，疯狂进入。其实，石油专业好了几年，在08－09年就不行了；看到powerengineer专业“好”，疯狂进入，其实这个专业今年在市场上已经非常饱和了。我的感觉，在华人网上国人对这些专业就业的谈论，往往之后市场2年。也就是说，国人发言往往是捕风捉影，用不熟悉的朋友的朋友的朋友的经历，就开始在网上胡言乱语的鼓动别人报考学习这专业。( D K/ {/ |& m; t
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我贴一个洋人论坛上的一个经历： S$ Z& w+ U k% m! m4 A: T! W6 T! t
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Seriously Questioning this decision
/ @% G! x: X& V, Oby wowsers1 2 weeks 2 days ago | 38 comments
5 @/ t) G/ [2 j1 h$ I1 q3 ` g* BAnd looking for advice.
* F- C0 _: L0 ^% {# n& I% IGot my fourth in December of last year and have since written all four 3rd class exams. Had my resume professionally done and reviewed by an HR person who called it 'very solid.'
$ ?0 l4 u" R- C) ]/ gAlso have 5 years oilfeld experience on pressure vessels. Must have sent out 100 resumes, called people, contacted people on linkedin. Had a very experienced friend personally place a resume on the desk of the hiring coordinator at a major oil company for newly commissioned SAGD plant he worked for with a nudge of the elbow to 'hire me while he could.'
6 ?' F7 N3 {% E/ T6 zLast 6 months worked for an oilfield boiler company. 5 h/ y+ L' v; I) a* Q3 g
I am willing to relocate anywhere for any amount in order to upgrade my ticket and gain experience. Pulp and Paper, Heavy Industry, Oil and Gas, I don't care. I'll do it if that's what I need to do.
5 o" v% c0 q3 G, M% `To date I received a phone interview for one contract position back in December. Nothing else. Nada. Zippee. + n4 Y* R9 R1 B# p) A) |3 }: o/ b
All this hype about these companies screaming for ticketed power engineers is precisely that. Hype. They want experienced 1st and 2nd classes. The market seems absolutely saturated to the brim with 3rds and 4ths. Hundreds of new tickets are desperately looking for work, and yet it seems everyone and their uncle, niece, sister and brother are getting into this. 6 M, T! f- m" g2 ?& r
What more can I do? I've done absolutely everything I can think of. I'm seriously considering a new trade at this point before I spend the next year out of work. Would appreciate any advice any of you have.
/ r0 V! Q% L* C" h7 K6 ]/ qby wowsers1 2 weeks 2 days ago 6 o1 g# b' u! p8 l; @5 }! o5 w
Also apologize for the negativity I'm usually a positive guy I'm just frustrated as hell right now.
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Thank you very much for this post I am very interested to know about this as well.
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Power engineering has become like most other professions (too many people for the jobs available). I've heard there will be a big hiring pickup in the next few years as more plants come online, but your story seems to be coming from a lot of people recently. ( E8 J) ~; F% @6 D6 A0 H
I had to work terrible jobs for almost seven years before I got a good break. Even during the hiring blitz of the years past.......I couldn't even get an interview with an oil and gas company. Zero. So there is definitely no guarantee of a big paying job without the right ticket/experience. Where does one get that experience? Well that's the problem with every career out there. No employer wants you because you don't have experience. But you can't get the experience if you aren't hired in the first place.
$ _' y4 Y* j8 J: _3 T. cSeems like you are trying hard enough to get something. My advice would be to keep at it for as long as you can stomach it. Worse comes to worse you can try building operations. Some of those jobs can give you the time to get your third. Then you can start your second class papers. I've heard once some people start building ops they actually like it so much they don't bother trying to get into a plant (due to schedule, city living, etc). But let's be honest, the vast majority are getting into these days to get the big oil and gas money. Which is quickly becoming a brutally hard position to get into
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+ m; L: ~8 p t) s# {4 @Hi. Apply at Nova. Here at Joffre we expect to hire 25 plus operators in the next year or so. 3rds mostly. I believe there are openings on the web right now for operator positions.
$ f/ `5 @5 R4 D9 L9 Nby Anonymous1 2 weeks 2 days ago ( K6 ~, f5 q* W7 q/ n8 ~
Bad time of year, lots of students/new grads searching. Try Agrium they always looking.& ?, D8 S, B) p& z
by wowsers1 2 weeks 2 days ago : d1 }' t% P' E6 A! _2 p7 N
I snap applied at Nova as soon as the job was posted. Followed up with a guy I was talking to there but no response. I don't know if I pissed him off or what cause he seems to have time to email my friend who doesn't even have his ticket, but I guess these are the thoughts you start thinking when you're desperate. Will try Agrium.
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% p" F( y% Z6 k8 |7 W" nYou would work anywhere? My chief keeps telling me he can never find anyone....no one ever applies. Weird. 5 W1 u7 I% H. N3 c8 D6 T
by urchysj 2 weeks 1 day ago
! x$ d# J7 T2 `2 IValley Power is always short of ticketed people....most of the positions are filled (now) by people who don't have a ticket at all because there doesn't seem to be anyone out there with a 4th or a 3rd wanting to work here. IDK....I love it here so I don't know if people turn their noses up at little places like this or what.
9 h; x: e9 w- \4 @* i( R: n, Rby ditchbanger 2 weeks 1 day ago
Y8 e( q1 ?, i% t! Nare you willing to move to northern ontario..?
, ?- @1 K3 {/ E2 j) P1 Sby jeffro 2 weeks 1 day ago
( |/ U' \) Q" B$ _, B3 x( `; v7 Ssmall-town northern ontario = really cheap housing in the smaller centres, awesome if you love the outdoors, for what it's worth...
% X {) o+ h( Z6 B$ Uby ditchbanger 2 weeks 1 day ago . Y3 V1 I* N. u0 c. {& P
chapleau,hornpayne are cheap places to live and looking for pe's....kirklandlake is also looking for pe's...do your time and in couple yrs have your 2nds and move on to better things7 P5 J1 @1 A, L, _6 v: D
by wowsers1 2 weeks 1 day ago
: E- m. @) O* `: C6 S) i. c. K@urchysj Sure is there a website or something? I couldnt find it on google.
, p5 u, T" q% l5 O@jeffro @ditchbanger I'll move anywhere as long as I can upgrade my ticket. Any links to those jobs or to companies in those towns?3 W' d0 c) i j+ S
by jeffro 2 weeks 1 day ago : Q& c7 s# t; i! V N" k
i no longer live in nw ontario, haven't for a few years....but outside of thunder bay, the housing hasn't really gone up much...i do know that much!
! H; ?( `' F0 ghttp://www.kirklandlakepowercorp.com/Employment-at-Kl-Power.html (i'm guessing?)
5 }, Y; o4 e* b1 U/ A `! yhttp://archive.jobbank.gc.ca/det ... p;Source=JobPosting it's a posting for a 3rd, but has a contact email address you can probably make use of. * V. I; Q- [; C5 W
and not to sound like a jerk, as i'm glad to help out...but i found those 2 links pretty easily just by googling "power engineer "...the better your skills are at scouring the internet, the better your chances of finding someone in HR to talk to ;-)
/ I* U9 o" x ]1 Lgood luck and keep hunting! sounds like you've got credentials worthy of a decent job for sure.
. [ f% z2 O8 M3 D. R1 ]by jeffro 2 weeks 1 day ago
! \) ^* |8 r G0 b2 s...the formatting on this website is weird, so it didn't post what i had intended. . ^6 O! \* r! h' k% q. R8 c$ G
search: power engineer chapleau/kirkland lake/hornepayne/sudbury/terrace bay/etc.
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by urchysj 2 weeks 1 day ago
f+ b _. l* T2 S% g$ P8 m4 AGuess that's the problem with little plants....too small to HAVE a local website. Valley Power Drayton Valley, 780 542 7196. We are full staffed with PEOPLE right now, but lacking people with TICKETS. I thinks we're still looking for a 2nd.
" t* U* S0 K0 _, t) z4 h4 {2 _4 S0 Pby ditchbanger 2 weeks 1 day ago 6 I6 c2 R. v" H: ]
just type in chapleau cogeneration and you can find phone number..
: n4 O) o2 G l: R7 [7 O0 {- uhornpayne is a new wood plant,town is super tiny...shouldnt be hard to get that number
1 |" p- L2 y: c6 H; Qkirklandlake is also easy to find number...as far as i know all are looking for pe's
+ v5 @9 i. a% p9 ^1 j( Aby Sako 2 weeks 20 hours ago ( k" j7 ^$ @/ R% q# \) L! J p: t
Many jobs in Ontario are listed as Stationary Engineer or Operating Engineer.% i# a3 ~& N& { b# @5 D
by Process Guy 1 week 6 days ago / C# \) [$ O. z; n# F6 `6 P" _
I feel your frustration. I am sure you have already applied to these ones, but the following companies are looking for operators according to their websites. Altagas, Pengrowth, Trilogy, Dow, Canfor, EnCana, Good luck and keep us updated.
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Husky is also looking for operators.
7 y1 Z6 t, m; Y+ aby chizy33 1 week 5 days ago
# ^7 z9 Z- ~% @$ jIn Ontario try U.S. Steel (Nanticoke) and AV Terrace Bay. I just got hired at the former and they've been recruiting like crazy apparently.& F0 q. h6 X0 o* U- A
by HeavyD 1 week 4 days ago - H% ?: W; N2 ?! f S& s; x( U
Hi Wowsers.. Like you I have also struggled to find something and landed a spot at PA Pulp in Prince Albert SK. Since I started 3 weeks ago 6 operaters have left, mostly because the lower class guys (4th like me) are used to run front end loaders and rock trucks hauling ash. Boiler time is little to none but they give steam time (because you are feeding the boiler system with bark chips) and are running out of operator applicants. It is an option, and if you are interested my email is daltonreid111@gmail.com and I can fill you in on the details. Wish this site had a PM options!: o/ c/ s& o6 x, Z, P
by Bonbu 1 week 4 days ago
* ~; C0 P- J/ EThat sounds good for a starting 4th class, HeavyD. Can you tell us how much they pay?3 T/ ~ U2 p; a# o" S
by HeavyD 1 week 4 days ago
. s* `% ]& w! FAlmost 33/hr. Ad is on Indeed and the parent company is Paper Excellence. Plant is always in a state of running/going to shut the doors so keep that in mind but even if you get 6 months steam time its better than 0. 2 G3 G* g, p. P6 y+ O
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