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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane/ ?: k5 O* ]8 d6 Y( X8 L9 l
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
! @2 @/ {% T# s(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).1 m  {* ?: Q3 I5 H# g, i" L
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
1 o/ z1 C3 ~" w0 S$ T上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
: a5 c0 y/ `1 @# ]+ V0 G她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:$ K+ r) E9 d& j+ t4 }' @+ e

! a# V0 O" N/ g, zAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
9 S8 W5 ]) a$ nShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
( ~  z6 A+ p) L8 E. rbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,2 K- Y. L# c4 {/ n
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.# C1 T. K( {3 Q8 u' k+ o( b; e  x
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.7 u4 F9 x( B  u4 {$ @: n5 _
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
8 S5 ?4 D+ x* E3 [+ Qif we demand He leave us alone?"8 _& a% `9 n( b
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;! m8 \% T6 a8 l8 q! O+ O
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
6 a3 Q" o+ p$ l2 d" w" W( h5 y* |不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
+ A8 h7 M4 R- M, u5 m) ^上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。% Y3 V, ]+ Y* G' k  e
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,# a. V# q, b& d) p
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』9 z7 z8 X" S/ F, @. Y8 k

. l3 g8 \5 a8 ]/ p+ Y  S% U& h$ BIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
' j' g: }, z# j8 [2 ^: R5 W9 A* k1 F* pI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
7 Y) O2 w2 N/ O' o4 u( A" N6 Hher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our6 |! Y- p+ C# N! w8 X8 b8 P
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in" O- K, t' i  ^  a
school...& S/ ^$ C4 F3 V0 M) u6 S5 n% U( e
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,7 ~; o; U9 p3 G$ t
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.( P& w) }# L5 H/ Q8 N
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,: V, e, e. ~5 W
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
# t) d* w; m; ]6 h  N6 [6 O(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,4 _- M7 \* ^1 [$ @
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
8 i$ p$ M5 a6 |6 k要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children* f/ w8 T: P) F2 k8 P! |2 ~
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped. x, `& }/ Q" O2 X9 B' r2 m
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed! d- G2 o) |& J* Z$ f
suicide)
- ]# t" ?0 c6 F7 [$ S. [We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.  f3 h8 k$ v* e; m0 z7 q
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
# R4 g  v) E8 H% J9 ?" G我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,: }" X( ~8 ?5 x
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
2 E$ N  \2 G8 C6 n( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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( j% d& R) m4 v3 WThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our5 W0 q. z/ B9 J: ?4 V
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member3 K4 S# n, ?0 {
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
0 ^: F% a4 d- X- Hbecause we don 't want any bad publicity,6 E2 e3 ~1 j3 s6 J% i
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference3 D8 M* w: G2 L
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,% E3 r' k7 V/ C1 O& e& r" }0 @
etc.). And we said OK.
/ {% X, n. ^  I4 q9 f# B& |然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,1 y( b, J3 J3 {+ f
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,0 _0 E; L1 J% J& k% I
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
5 g9 C% [1 O& `# b3 J; }更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),8 x! ~5 m2 t* Z) r% h3 a
而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,1 N2 e8 \; c* Y& ~( o5 W8 m
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
: o/ D' m. w" R4 ~Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
0 {0 ]' I4 i0 O; Z4 N3 oand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
3 X) m- w! `, A/ a4 T' Sthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,
# W& x# J5 S4 A/ G4 rand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
6 P, e' i: z' rsaid OK.
8 A* c3 Y6 ?5 z9 g1 V' {然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
1 s/ e2 j! O# [+ S甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。" r1 s) X: s. A% l1 {# k
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
' ?1 `' j4 M( b* D- f) P3 Q6 _  p他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
: P. c5 r& O' S9 [) R" M! B' V6 v好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
5 T  s/ @2 o. m他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。% ?. y/ \( t3 ~' |* \

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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
6 ^! A, s. n2 ~9 |: K0 {what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,  Z$ m5 [/ l$ V
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
3 y- I' ^. b* o1 G) x( jdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
4 r% |) d; `% j- B1 I0 G然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
* Q) ^$ `5 ]  X9 O2 M9 z; ?只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
% G# z+ b; u, |) Y) M  L# G* d9 F任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
6 W# ]$ v; Q3 S8 y$ {& g% p% M4 K( M, J只要我有工作而且經濟看好。4 o# C. j! \! v+ V( O
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women. t/ S7 C4 B4 E8 m( ]* {
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty; `2 o, x: c# @+ A+ r
of the female body. And we said OK.
- h; R" [! c! X# u3 j然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,: {: n, H: A  |; h+ z! t
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。6 x6 V4 a+ ~) a% S$ A
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and/ g& v! `, S5 e6 f( ~- u# n4 I' a
published pictures of nude children and then further again
- t2 n/ \6 l4 d5 f& L) _by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,9 a& c7 m: Y: [! c7 h
they're entitled to free speech.
, W4 N! ?: P" x2 G  Y/ s. C* e然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,/ K) d( J2 e( h4 M
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
5 `+ G. q7 s( x+ d% J# M2 k6 T他們這樣做是言論自由。8 }* D: Q" R. e6 t, s! ]
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
9 j: Y5 y9 `9 Pthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music3 q) T- [" Y" Y  _2 U9 Q! O
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.# _' u2 ]. u8 E: {) ~) g2 _2 S
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,, R$ _# U: R9 w0 k( e$ Y$ p% q- Z
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.8 l& n/ q8 N: S; f; c
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、3 b0 w5 s! X: ?- b' H
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、& J8 e. Y& w5 Q( [  }5 e# V
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
# w- m9 h7 o0 n( M% F那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。% ?. ]* I, V3 u; t6 u& j
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
" I+ k/ D6 [3 r, {why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them# U! _* M2 v, g' D, d% |; P! W6 F
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
% y* K  k; ]9 t3 K+ c/ H2 Jif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
  O3 t/ f* D7 e8 T; `0 s# S1 F$ jI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
7 w- B; {  n1 @9 e8 G6 Q( w如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
4 y6 l& p* d, C. B9 [1 t6 K為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
, E, s' {2 q+ T$ `2 K# F為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
% K1 G2 L# ^3 n; S4 T9 ^( J9 N假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
; n8 H& i9 ?: ^& ~我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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( Z! J" `4 d1 H% v3 e- U, A- E, MFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
: e; @/ x* I$ ?) u8 Uwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers4 h/ T) n2 F# o  d% a* K
say, but question what the Bible says.8 _, |0 \2 ^& f9 P0 t
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。8 i! F; }4 h4 G
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。+ @; D: ?2 U2 H& a( P) }

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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
9 C" N4 F; C. b8 y0 ^wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,1 {4 x) }; W0 I% }9 i
people think twice about sharing.1 c  v" I' o* h6 O; u1 Z" E
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;- G) o0 M* Z) ~: e( D7 V) [. T
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,; a5 _( s' j0 o' o9 y0 S
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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& Y7 B7 G" Q$ m* f8 n* v; \0 `  dFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
' m6 \% `, w7 q$ i" C% p! C0 Tthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed6 t% t' |* s9 f
in the school and workplace.1 q) ^# ~2 e( d2 ]7 h9 d
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
& _9 N( s0 A. z$ Q9 E) ~# P透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
% _' |. M8 R+ `  |; _& d而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。6 x& g1 e* x" l) p5 {

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! c5 B$ r) W# {( n' }Are you laughing?
4 `1 o- }. f0 g6 O你笑了嗎?5 g9 B& N6 w0 U# X
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it" b, a9 D3 j( C! y
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
  x0 P& b+ F+ e4 a, |$ X0 Y) o8 hor what they WILL think of you for sending it.
% e& c8 w% [; w+ Z. gFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us7 Z6 H/ t( t( o6 v- f. K
than what God thinks of us.- M" d2 W( V5 `6 ]" M9 q3 ?. J
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
" z1 u' _1 I/ x: n; K6 ~  l5 N因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
: f( B; U$ H6 x' a: u  T# ]1 V或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。9 @5 u1 d6 u# T  k( M* m
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
8 A' o  c  O8 @& Q( c而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。" T# A  q0 z2 _+ A6 y# h5 V0 }
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1 S, E) `. S2 Q& \' dPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...9 w$ O7 G- n( c' p- S( i- o& G
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't2 }4 X/ Z% y5 @
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!) `- v( t/ L; ?# V6 g
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
. |' l& O  V+ L- x" v  z若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,2 `2 s: M( N! {) b" f
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
* S" |+ m6 F  g  M' S6 K3 r你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.2 q) \7 {5 C1 F) M* E

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& \3 {0 f2 T1 D- X) Q  H上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
4 @" f. T2 U* a+ I" j6 q( S  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
% d; n" a; a0 Y1 S7 ^: \有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。( U- g. [# v& X  X* w' V5 Z
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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