Can i get a higher salary, boss?

peterpan

Thanks to the blooming economy in Alberta, we have a better chance to get higher salary and better jobs. Since late last year, some agents have been trying to advise my friends and myself to switch to some other jobs. The salary they provide is really very attractive, as a result, for the last several months, we kept losing some people every month. This month, Mr. L, my best friend, left the company. I feel very sad about that. At his last day, we walked around the building, just like at my first day in the company. I felt tears in my eyes.

After L’s leaving, I began to think about my future seriously. Actually I feel quite happy in the company, and get well along with everyone. Furthermore, the company is a big and growing one. I like the company culture here. For a long term professional development, I believe it is much better to stay in such a company. So the only thing left is just the salary. To be honest, I don't like the way that gets an offer and then bargain with the company.  I believe I deserve a better salary, especially in today’s market. Neither my friends nor me have the experience to discuss salary with the company without another offer, they don't think it is a good idea. However, I want to try, I like the way “先礼后兵”, but that is mainly because of the labor shortage market, if now it is very hard to get a job, I won’t take the risk.
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I spent almost one night trying to write a letter which is “动之以情晓之以理”. I discuss it with my wife, she gave me some advice. At last I was quite happy with the letter and sent it to our HR at a right time, leaving some time for her to consider it. Today she asked me to go out for a coffee, we had a very good talk. Both the scenario we prepared are very reasonable so we have a perfect match. I got a pretty higher salary, she got to know something about the employee and made sure I would stay in the company. Both of us are very happy.

( S5 J- W2 s4 b- o+ Q; @. K# o2 lTo be honest, it is my first time to ask for a higher salary when it is not the performance review time. It is something like “摸着石头过河”. I believe I did a good job, but for sure it might be better. I am writing this to 抛砖引玉, if anyone has some idea about how to discuss the salary with the company, please don't hesitate to speak out. I believe it will benefit most of the people. After all, it is a precious time now to get a promotion or higher salary.

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[ 本帖最后由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 21:13 编辑 ]

peterpan

这算是偶在这里的第一篇英文贴子吧,主要是源于上次飞偶像给偶布置的一篇作业,诚惶诚恐,汗不敢出,希望大家有什么砖头也轻一点扔,别让偶疼的太厉害

黑弟

忙着跟税表斗争呢，回头再来学习。

peterpan

原帖由 黑弟 于 2007-2-26 21:15 发表
忙着跟税表斗争呢，回头再来学习。

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这么快就开始Tax了,偶还在等各种表呢

markqiu

祝贺皮校讨薪胜利，该请客了吧？

peterpan

原帖由 markqiu 于 2007-2-26 21:25 发表
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$ L% `2 S) ^6 \  没问题,移版那边我不是就欠了你一顿吗,你下次过来咱就解决了它

markqiu

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 21:27 发表

  没问题,移版那边我不是就欠了你一顿吗,你下次过来咱就解决了它

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3 y" S/ W0 `4 b7 J皮校的邀请，俺敢不从命啊？ :kaixin:

peterpan

原帖由 markqiu 于 2007-2-26 21:29 发表
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这次准备喝什么酒?

markqiu

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 21:40 发表


这次准备喝什么酒?

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红的，白的，啤的，偶样样奉陪哈！

如花

恭喜！
3 a4 N) M/ P) _2 h, m如果能强调个人能力而非经济等外部环境就更好。不过无论怎样，结果是美好的。

[ 本帖最后由 如花 于 2007-2-26 22:03 编辑 ]

peterpan

原帖由 markqiu 于 2007-2-26 21:55 发表
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3 i& m+ R" L& e( M红的，白的，啤的，偶样样奉陪哈！

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peterpan

原帖由 如花 于 2007-2-26 21:59 发表
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8 W; J& D9 d4 w* i+ R1 @, X另外泼点冷水，好像过于强调经济环境而不是个人能力。不过无论怎样，结果是美好的。
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PS：我今天都收到加薪通知

同喜同喜,如花兄好洞察力,你一说我自己再看确实是,也许是小皮写着写着就习惯性地强调客观原因了
) D% o: Y1 o( h3 o其实确实如你所说,个人能力非常重要,公司之前走的人,有的只是问一下原因,有的却大力挽留,就能看出来了,
小皮在写信中的"晓之以理"其实就是强调自己的能力

markqiu

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 22:06 发表

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同喜同喜,如花兄好洞察力,你一说我自己再看确实是,也许是小皮写着写着就习惯性地强调客观原因了
7 v6 t$ r- w% q$ ^; G其实确实如你所说,个人能力非常重要,公司之前走的人,有的只是问一下原因,有的却大力挽留,就 ...

主要是花重金买通了HR哈！

俺们这里的工资只能靠工会罢工来涨！

八千里路云和月

恭喜小皮加薪!什么时候升职呢?我看也快了.........

peterpan

原帖由 markqiu 于 2007-2-26 22:10 发表
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主要是花重金买通了HR哈！

俺们这里的工资只能靠工会罢工来涨！

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3 A7 a4 l& j  P5 h  C偶们都知道靠工会罢工来涨工资的那才是金饭碗呢,说起来偶刚去Toronto的时候,无比羡慕那些生活在工会羽翼下的人,比如说警察,教师,公车司机,甚至垃圾工人

peterpan

原帖由 八千里路云和月 于 2007-2-26 22:15 发表
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快了快了,借八哥金口吉言,到时候一定请你

望明月

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 21:08 发表
Thanks to the blooming economy in Alberta, we have a better chance to get higher salary and better jobs. Since late last year, some agents have been trying to advise my friends and myself to swit ...

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看标题，还以为是皮校的加薪信呢~
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要不要把原信也贴出来让大家学习学习？
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恭喜讨薪成功，等着喝喜酒噢^_^^_^

peterpan

原帖由 望明月 于 2007-2-26 22:22 发表
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! j6 s: c+ H" P4 V  S- \+ Q. l看标题，还以为是皮校的加薪信呢~

; @$ R3 s$ |2 W& }) a要不要把原信也贴出来让大家学习学习？
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这个原信有挺多公司和自己的信息的,处理太麻烦了,总之就是尽量"动之以情晓之以理"了
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Greatwall

做老细真系惨啊!

peterpan

原帖由 Greatwall 于 2007-2-26 22:36 发表
做老细真系惨啊!

做乜啊,你又被人追要加人工啊?

Greatwall

唉,直头明抢啦!

望明月

原帖由 Greatwall 于 2007-2-26 22:36 发表
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城版什么时候变成美眉啦？

peterpan

原帖由 Greatwall 于 2007-2-26 22:40 发表
唉,直头明抢啦!

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peterpan

原帖由 望明月 于 2007-2-26 22:43 发表
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7 ~. _; [* _/ ~! @城版什么时候变成美眉啦？

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这是偶们那噶瘩的土话,不是MM的说

望明月

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 22:46 发表
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这是偶们那噶瘩的土话,不是MM的说

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peterpan

原帖由 望明月 于 2007-2-26 22:47 发表


参考他/她的图像~

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望明月

原帖由 peterpan 于 2007-2-26 22:49 发表

我觉得挺漂亮的。

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. `. `" V0 I" X; Q9 y[ 本帖最后由 望明月 于 2007-2-26 22:54 编辑 ]

Greatwall

原帖由 望明月 于 2007-2-26 22:43 发表

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城版什么时候变成美眉啦？

markqiu

原帖由 Greatwall 于 2007-2-26 23:00 发表
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做兄弟的一早劝过你的啦，这个头像母的啦！

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